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    Considering a 317?

    So my dilemma is, there is a guy near by with a 317 Series two tractor with a decent deck and nice shape overall with one exception. That problem is it vibrates while the engine is smooth I believe it to be the drive shaft after reading alot about it. I have also found two different people selling the shaft with the u joints. Now my question is would this tractor be worth it or should I move on because of other issues the vibration could have caused? Are there any tell tale signs to look out for?
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    What year is the tractor, how many hours on it and how much $$?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo2 View Post
    What year is the tractor, how many hours on it and how much $$?
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    These were made from 1979 to 1983, and hour meters weren't standard equipment, they were an option.

    Attila,
    The vibration was probably caused by the drive shaft, which is a known issue on these. As for any damage, most evident sign would be seepage or leakage around engine crankshaft, and the transmission where the drive shaft hooks at. Also check for cracks on these parts.

    If you feel you're not mechanically inclined, it might be best to pass on it. One thing to consider is there are a lot of older John Deere garden tractors out there, so don't get into a rush and buy something you're not sure of. The 317 with the series II engines are excellent machines, but a vibrating driveshaft can cause engine damage if not taken care of quickly.
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    I believe '79 because the serial is 103598m and c317h, not sure of hours and hes asking $600

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila View Post
    I believe '79 because the serial is 103598m and c317h, not sure of hours and hes asking $600
    Definitely a 1979, which came out of the factory with the troublesome Series I engine, not the Series II. It must have been replaced at one point, or it's a Series I instead.
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    Well the spec # is 24301 so that's why I thought it's series II but now I'm thinking maybe not the best idea since the vibrating could damage the motor as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mo View Post
    Definitely a 1979, which came out of the factory with the troublesome Series I engine, not the Series II. It must have been replaced at one point, or it's a Series I instead.
    So in your opinion how does a '87 JD180 compare? Is it just a much weaker trans for plowing/towing? Aslo the 185? Both are also available around me.

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    Comparing a 180 to a 317 is apple to oranges. The 317 is a garden tractor, the 180 is a lawn tractor. The 180 may handle light snow duty, light cart hauling, but it was designed to mow grass, which it does well. The 317 was designed to do a lot more, to till a garden, to plow a garden, can be equipped with a 3 point hitch or an integral hitch. It all depends on what you think you will be using the tractor for. If you think you need a garden tractor, then don't settle for a lawn tractor. Check this article out. When is a Lawn Mower a Lawn Mower? :: John Deere TechTalk – The Source for John Deere Technical Information
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Mo View Post
    Comparing a 180 to a 317 is apple to oranges. The 317 is a garden tractor, the 180 is a lawn tractor. The 180 may handle light snow duty, light cart hauling, but it was designed to mow grass, which it does well. The 317 was designed to do a lot more, to till a garden, to plow a garden, can be equipped with a 3 point hitch or an integral hitch. It all depends on what you think you will be using the tractor for. If you think you need a garden tractor, then don't settle for a lawn tractor. Check this article out. When is a Lawn Mower a Lawn Mower? :: John Deere TechTalk – The Source for John Deere Technical Information
    Wow thank you great read. Now i just wish there was some thing that clearified all the numbers and what they actually are. Because it seems that the 112, 140 and 212 and 312 were all GTs then the newer 100s arent but the GT262 for example is? Its just confusing but the article definetely made me realize i am looking for a GT considering i will be grading a gravel drive ocassionaly and towing a trailer.

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    Today, the model numbers don't really signify anything. When Deere was making the GT262s, etc. the GT meant garden tractor. The main thing is to go see the tractor. Nothing beats a hands on face to face with a tractor. Pictures help, but still.......

    I wrote that article with just what you were referring to - to give respective buyers an insight into what they should be looking for to meet their needs. Too many new buyers buy a tractor that's below their expectations on what that particular machine is designed to do. So they get frustrated, disappointed, and ultimately bad mouth a particular brand, only because they didn't do their research. That article should help place the tractor with their expectations and their needs.
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