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    Anyone using a ballast box trolley with a heavy box?

    Hiya,

    I have a Portland filled Deere ballast box with the extension filled right to the top. Currently I'm using a heavy duty oak furniture dolly with 6 steel wheel casters on a polished concrete floor. It works OK but the wood does flex and it makes moving it difficult.

    I'm wondering how the trolley works with the heaver ballast boxes.

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom

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    I have a JD ballast box with the extension and I'm right around 730 lb. I tried making my own 5-caster cart and it was barely movable with two people. I now have the Artillian trolley with six casters. I certainly don't have to worry about it scooting away from me but it is now easily movable by one person.

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    Hi Everyone,

    I hope JG answered the question well enough. He is one of only two people who currently has one of these and the other is quite literally half way around the world. As long as the total weight is under 1000 lbs, it should work better than anything else.

    These trolleys have been a long time and a lot of work in the making, but they should finally be ready to ship next week once they come back with a fresh coat of JD green powder on them.

    For any GTT member who wants to get one on order through 7/18/14, send me a Private Message and I'll send you a code to get a few thousand bucks off.

    Edit: I believe there are actually more than two of these trolleys in use. Oops, forgot.
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    Chris,

    One Deere doc says that the box with extension filled with concrete weighs 1056 Lbs. Mine is filled with Portland cement which I think is slightly heaver.
    Here is a post on GTT that has a Deere doc with the what looks to be 1330 Lbs for a box with extension filled with Portland. Do you think it would take it?
    http://www.greentractortalk.com/foru...llast-box.html


    What I noticed with my box was that before I added the extension, I was able to move it on the dolly with 4 nylon casters, once I added the extension, the casters flattened and I was unable to roll it at all. I swapped to steel casters from TSC and I was able to roll it but had to add 2 casters in the center because the dolly was bowing. Now I'm at the limit of the oak as it twists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomd999 View Post
    Chris,

    One Deere doc says that the box with extension filled with concrete weighs 1056 Lbs.
    The reason I went with the ballast box extension is I used concrete bricks in mine. So I was unable to get the minimum recommended ballast by using the base box alone. Plus, as you can see in the photo the extension gave me some extra room to store a tool box where I keep all my tow chains and larger hitch parts. The tool box by itself probably weighs 50 lbs.


    What I noticed with my box was that before I added the extension, I was able to move it on the dolly with 4 nylon casters, once I added the extension, the casters flattened and I was unable to roll it at all. I swapped to steel casters from TSC and I was able to roll it but had to add 2 casters in the center because the dolly was bowing. Now I'm at the limit of the oak as it twists.

    Tom
    That was the problem I had with my home made platform. It would bow in the middle. So I added a 5th caster to the center. My casters were rated for 250 lb but they were rubber and it was nearly impossible for one person to roll it across my wooden garage floor.

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    JGayman,

    I went with the Portland filled box and extension as the minimum ballast for the rear of a 3x20 series with a 300cx according to Deere is loaded tires, ballast box with extension and 6 wheel weights. I have loaded R3's and the heavy box on a 3320 cab and I have had the rear wheels off the ground a few times picking up things.

    The 300cx loaders are almost too strong for the chassis size and I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting 6-110 Lb weights for it as well because things get scary quickly when a cab tractor starts lifting wheels off the ground.

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    The reason I went with the ballast box extension is I used concrete bricks in mine. So I was unable to get the minimum recommended ballast by using the base box alone. Plus, as you can see in the photo the extension gave me some extra room to store a tool box where I keep all my tow chains and larger hitch parts. The tool box by itself probably weighs 50 lbs.
    What size bricks did you use? Any pics? I'm debating about what to put in mine, whatever it is, I want it to be easily and completely removable. I only need about 450-500lbs of ballast "material" since I have an iMatch and the 1026R maxs out at 680lbs or so... I think the box weights, what 100lbs and the iMatch around 70lbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Man View Post
    What size bricks did you use? Any pics? I'm debating about what to put in mine, whatever it is, I want it to be easily and completely removable. I only need about 450-500lbs of ballast "material" since I have an iMatch and the 1026R maxs out at 680lbs or so... I think the box weights, what 100lbs and the iMatch around 70lbs?
    I got the bricks at Home Depot. They are standard concrete bricks and they weigh 4.375 lbs. each. I was originally planning to use bags of Pea Gravel but no where could I find how much a bag weighed. So I ended up purchasing one bag so I could weigh it. I eventually decided to go with the bricks and since I had the one bag of Pea Gravel I dumped it in around the bricks.

    Here's the break-down:

    Ballast Box: 88 lbs.
    105 bricks: 459 lbs. (in main box)
    1 bag Pea Gravel: 43 lbs.
    Extension: 30 lbs.
    16 bricks: 70 lbs. (in extension)
    Tool box with chains: 40 lbs.
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    Total: 730 lbs.

    Revised, I recently added the Artillian ballast box trolly which weighs around 50 lbs. so that puts me around 780 lbs. total.

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    Thank you for the detail and the pics! Don't forget the weight of you QH. You are probably over 800lbs including the QH, no?

    I'm thinking since you were able to fit 105 of the concrete bricks in just the box, with the Artillian Trolley, bricks, iMatch, and weight of the box, I should be able to hit 650lbs no problem.
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    Finally ordered a 6 caster trolley, looking forward to it!!!
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