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    A Word Of Caution . . .

    When using the new Artillian Front Hoe be aware that the Lock Keys can get "over-stressed". One of mine did and it fell off into my work and took a little bit to find again. To me it appears that the crimp on ferrule was not sufficiently crimped/staked and pulled off with use over time.

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    I notified Chris at Artillian and he stated "That wire has been overstressed. Those lanyards are intended as a convenience. They are not designed for excessive loads."

    "If you wish to restore it, the lost crimped end can be replaced with the following https://www.grainger.com/product/CLIMAX-METAL-PRODUCTS-316-Stainless-Steel-Shaft-36WY59?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/36WY58_AS01?$smthumb$"

    I have to believe there may be a better option out there than the $20.30 316 Stainless Steel Shaft Collar from Grainger recommended.

    Any thoughts or suggestion??

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    My frame and receiver hitch both pre-date the general adoption of the keys - the hitch came with the pins and clips used everywhere else on the tractor.
    Since the keys were new, there wasn't a handy lanyard for them, stanless steel or otherwise, so I used a *long* wire tie and looped through the keys and the receiver frame.
    All are still present and accounted for (as least as of last friday when I had to move a trailer).
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    The photo doesn't really show what we are looking at. Do you have the Front Hoe mounted upside down? Can you show the other side so we can see what a good key is supposed to look like?
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    There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the key, it's the metal rope/wire used to secure the key to the attachment when it isn't installed. The crimp failed. The key is the gold looking piece of metal in the round hole if you are not familiar with them. It looks like a T when you have it out of the hole.

    I think that is just part of the deal if you use the attachment as you should. Sometimes things happen but it is impressive you got the wire to strip out of the crimp like that.

    Good thing you were able to find the key. I don't think you are going to find anything like that a TSC as a replacement.
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    I'm still trying to figure out what you did that caused this? Did the small loop of wire get snagged on something while you were using the implement?

    You can get a whole bag of replacement crimping loops from Amazon for around $5. While they are designed to be used with a swaging tool to secure them, they can be crimped by alternative methods if needed. Heck, put double crimping loops on the wire end if needed.

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    I stripped one too, if we are talking about the same thing. It's not hard to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubber View Post
    I stripped one too, if we are talking about the same thing. It's not hard to do.
    It looks like maybe some slightly larger wire rope may be in order... and double crimp loops to boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    The photo doesn't really show what we are looking at. Do you have the Front Hoe mounted upside down? Can you show the other side so we can see what a good key is supposed to look like?
    Yes, upside down. This shows the termination . . . The wire is through a hole then crimped on opposite side. Always retained on the Front Hoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69project View Post
    There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the key, it's the metal rope/wire used to secure the key to the attachment when it isn't installed. The crimp failed. The key is the gold looking piece of metal in the round hole if you are not familiar with them. It looks like a T when you have it out of the hole.

    I think that is just part of the deal if you use the attachment as you should. Sometimes things happen but it is impressive you got the wire to strip out of the crimp like that.
    Yea, my belief is also that the crimp failed. See the picture, the lead of the failed is the same length of the good key meaning the crimp failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out what you did that caused this? Did the small loop of wire get snagged on something while you were using the implement?
    Your guess is as good as anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    Yes, upside down. This shows the termination . . . The wire is through a hole then crimped on opposite side. Always retained on the Front Hoe.
    Ahhh... thank you for the detail. I would loop the wire through that hole and secure with one of the crimp loops. That will allow the crimp to be secured to two thicknesses of wire and remove the stress from the crimp itself.

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