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    12x18 2 story storage building: Concrete pad or crushed stone?

    Concrete pad or crushed stone as a base for the 2 story 12x18 storage building?

    Pros, cons, prior experience?

    Itís about 100 feet from a large body of freshwater, elevated about four feet above it (no wave action that high up)

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    I think it all boils down to the size of your wallet. A concrete base is superior and looks nicer, but is much more expensive than the stone.
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    2-story? slab. I have enough trouble keeping my 12x16 single story shed from racking due to the ground heaving because of freeze/thaw cycles. One of my projects this summer is to move it, drop holes below the frost line and put in piers to set it back on top of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jermedic View Post
    Concrete pad or crushed stone as a base for the 2 story 12x18 storage building?

    Pros, cons, prior experience?

    Itís about 100 feet from a large body of freshwater, elevated about four feet above it (no wave action that high up)

    Ready, GO
    If you have the money, I would go with concrete. Easier to work and store stuff on. Even if you have stone there is a chance for water/moisture to get in. That is fairly small size to have a pad poured for so it shouldn't be a tremendous expense.
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    I assume you are talking building a pole building type construction?? If so, your choice of stone or concrete will have no effect on the building structure, so, concrete would obviously be nicer, although, whatever makes you happy will work.

    Actually, a concrete floor in any building shouldn't have anything to do with the building structure unless you are simply building on a slab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69project View Post
    If you have the money, I would go with concrete. Easier to work and store stuff on. Even if you have stone there is a chance for water/moisture to get in. That is fairly small size to have a pad poured for so it shouldn't be a tremendous expense.

    @4Ē thatís 2.67 cubic yards

    @6Ē thatís 4 cubic yards

    Depending on material price ($100-150/cyd) your only talking $600 max for materials and possibly another few hundred for labor to place it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balrog006 View Post
    @4Ē thatís 2.67 cubic yards

    @6Ē thatís 4 cubic yards

    Depending on material price ($100-150/cyd) your only talking $600 max for materials and possibly another few hundred for labor to place it.
    I can't speak for everywhere in the country but in South Central PA, redi-mix concrete delivered is at least $250.00/yard.

    Just doing some quick math, it takes 45 - 80 lb. bags of quickcrete for one yard. At $4.00 per bag, that's $180.00 for enough quickcrete bags for one yard. I can't see anywhere in the country where you will get redi-mix concrete for $100.00/yard. Just sayin!!!

    I'm definitely not saying, don't concrete the building, but be sure to way the cost accurately in your part of the country.
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    5k psi concrete with fiber reinforcement was $125 or so a yard here when delivered. There was a minimum amount and a small fee or two. Overall very reasonable IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    5k psi concrete with fiber reinforcement was $125 or so a yard here when delivered. There was a minimum amount and a small fee or two. Overall very reasonable IMHO.
    I new it was expensive to live in PA. Whew, now I know it is!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_PA View Post
    I can't speak for everywhere in the country but in South Central PA, redi-mix concrete delivered is at least $250.00/yard.

    Just doing some quick math, it takes 45 - 80 lb. bags of quickcrete for one yard. At $4.00 per bag, that's $180.00 for enough quickcrete bags for one yard. I can't see anywhere in the country where you will get redi-mix concrete for $100.00/yard. Just sayin!!!

    I'm definitely not saying, don't concrete the building, but be sure to way the cost accurately in your part of the country.
    $250/CYD !?!?!?!!??

    I can order a yard of limestone mix, 3500 PSI truck delivered Redi-mix concrete with a chemical water reducer and air entrainment for less than $110 from a state certified plant. There are minimum load charges for less than 3-4 yards on a truck, but I don’t ever order less than a full truck. If I let the plant talk me into a cheaper, less technical mix I could get it for a shade UNDER $100 a yard.

    Not sure why the suppliers near you get away with highway robbery, but that borders on obscene, $250 a yard... disgraceful.

    Your comparison with bags of quickrete, while useful to a point isn’t really valid when comparing commercially deliverable quantities of materials. How much would you pay at a home improvement warehouse for a bag of mulch/play sand/topsoil/landscaping rock/ etc.? You’ll never pay near that cost in an equivalent delivery of bulk materials, or at least you shouldn’t!

    With those small quantities of things, your paying for the measuring/weaihing out and the labor to handle the small quantities , the packaging and shipping, etc. with bulk delivered quantities there is next to none of that processing, handling, packaging, waste and labor hence the economy of scale and the typical savings you see.
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