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    How do you fill the holes for the poles?

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    When you are setting poles for a pole barn, do you pour Quickcrete in the hole, then water? Or mix the Quickcrete fully, then fill the hole with it? Or...?
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    Never built a pole barn but have mixed and then dumped, dumped and then watered as well as just dumped the quickrete (dry no water). I have had about equal success with all three ways on fences, porches, chicken coops and swing sets.
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    I've always mixed and poured it in but a friend of mine that does cedar fences always does the "mix it in the hole" method - but he ONLY uses the fast setting concrete mix.
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    Here in Minnesota morton buildings co. They set the poles in the hole then add dry sack Crete then fill with dirt. The ground moisture mixes to make cement over time.
    When I built mine it was a menards kit and a friend that builds them for a living for a different company help me. He puts a 2x6 around the bottom of the pole then sets the pole and fills to the top with pea rock.
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    I usually do it the hard way. Dig a hole too deep with the backhoe. Set a Sonotube into place. Backfill around the Sonotube with pea stone. Set the posts and double-check plumb, level and square. Mix and pour the Sakrete into the Sonotube. Built some real solid decks and pole buildings over the years. I'd go broke as a builder!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berettax2 View Post
    Here in Minnesota morton buildings co. They set the poles in the hole then add dry sack Crete then fill with dirt. The ground moisture mixes to make cement over time.
    When I built mine it was a menards kit and a friend that builds them for a living for a different company help me. He puts a 2x6 around the bottom of the pole then sets the pole and fills to the top with pea rock.
    That's the way Morton used to do it 10 years ago, then they went to putting the poles on "stilts" and pouring ready mix in the hole, then in the last couple years they have went to a concrete "permacolumn"
    I have used the pour in a couple bags of sack crete method, and have had good luck with it. I figure if it was good enough for Morton for 75 years it should be OK...even if they don't do it that way anymore.

    Whatever method you use, I like to flood the hole with water a couple weeks after the building is complete. It helps everything settle good and all the voids from the back filling gets worked out.
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    I've always mixed the concrete and then poured it in.
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    Place a brick or piece of concrete block in the bottom the hole, set post on top of that, pour in quikcrete with gravel and add water. Level and brace accordingly.

    That method has always worked for me. Good luck.
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    I helped build one for a friend and we put the loose dirt and packed it. I mean all the dirt removed from the hole went back in, packed solid around the poles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arlen View Post
    That's the way Morton used to do it 10 years ago, then they went to putting the poles on "stilts" and pouring ready mix in the hole, then in the last couple years they have went to a concrete "permacolumn"
    I have used the pour in a couple bags of sack crete method, and have had good luck with it. I figure if it was good enough for Morton for 75 years it should be OK...even if they don't do it that way anymore.

    Whatever method you use, I like to flood the hole with water a couple weeks after the building is complete. It helps everything settle good and all the voids from the back filling gets worked out.
    I see things have changed since I built in 2004. Haven't looked since. Thanks for the update
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