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    Frost Free Hose Bib

    I'm not sure if that is the name, but it had a below ground drop release that empties the pipe.

    So my contractor pt one in, put a stake next to it and wrapped a flex tie to the stake.

    The second time I opened the faucet I must have applied a bit of side torque, the pipe broke off. Now the house water is turned off while I repair this.

    Any suggestions on supporting this better?

    Meanwhile is a 30' Grady White.

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    They are generally called "yard hydrants". That was a poor installation to say the least.
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    I think the appropriate action would be to find the guy that installed this, pull him out of his truck by the collar...... and........well, Kenny knows how this story goes!
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    Bigger stake, deeper into the ground, proper clamps to hydrant.

    Myself, I'd put a PT 4X4 behind it, dug in at least a foot deeper, possibly set in cement. But that is me.

    And it looks like PVC supply. I don't know if that is code, but that is probably why it broke so easily. If it is a metal supply, for at least part of it near the hydrant, and deeper, you may not need a stake.

    BTW, what is frost depth in your area. Your hydrant doesn't look like it's more than 12 inches down. Not good if the bottom, where the valve is freezes. Where I live, frost line is about 48 inches.

    I'd do it differently. But I would check code first.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomfive View Post
    Bigger stake, deeper into the ground, proper clamps to hydrant.

    Myself, I'd put a PT 4X4 behind it, dug in at least a foot deeper, possibly set in cement. But that is me.

    And it looks like PVC supply. I don't know if that is code, but that is probably why it broke so easily. If it is a metal supply, for at least part of it near the hydrant, and deeper, you may not need a stake.

    BTW, what is frost depth in your area. Your hydrant doesn't look like it's more than 12 inches down. Not good if the bottom, where the valve is freezes. Where I live, frost line is about 48 inches.

    I'd do it differently. But I would check code first.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    I drove in a similar sized pipe and U bolted the 2 together in a couple spots..high & low.

    I've done some others way different in a elaborate 5 gallon bucket .....bla bla bla

    What a PITA to dig up when some turd backs into one.....Never again.

    I'd use a few hose clamps ,u bolts or whatever.....I have one just like yours , recently repaired ...I need to finish that project or plan on doing it once again
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    deeper ....deeper......usually the pipe is a minimum of 3' deep and the backfill around the pipe supports it....

    if your going to put it that shallow it ill need extra support......also usually there is a brick or block under it so it is supported from the bottom......

    its common in our area to see these inside of a 3' deep verticle 4 or 6" plastic pipe packed with sand and gravel flush with the ground and the elbow at the bottom sitting on a brick ..
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    If a yard hydrant is installed correctly, they are self supporting. There is no need for any other type of support.
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    I agree with what everyone else has said, but I would add this. Underground, around the base of the faucet, put about a square foot of crushed stone instead of just dirt. It will help the faucet drain better.
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    I thank you all for the replies. It gives me more to think about.

    What I did to get the water back on the house is to put used brick under and around, then pour 3/4 minus over that, then fill with 3/4 minus, then used the bucket I once read about here. I'll finish with a strain relief attaching to the hose around the bucket in case I pull the hose.

    Some u bolts is a great idea. Will get some tomorrow.

    The depth is shallow as it only freezes for a few days here. I live a mile from the lower Columbia River, banana belt compared to what you northern guys put up with. The water line is above the electric line to the shop. Inspected and approved.

    Now I can rinse my sprayer. I had just filled 40 gallons so I turned off the water and got my spraying done. Now to rinse.

    Thanks again.

    Meanwhile is a 30' Grady White.
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