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    How would you break up this silo base?

    12' across, 7' high, 1' thick, and I think they added rocks as they built it.

    It's on the same side as the bank that went to the second floor. I plan to push the bank across where the barn used to stand. I think about 1/2 of the silo base will be exposed.

    No sledge hammering for me, so that option is OUT
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    Electric jackhammer rents for about $75 a day. Guessing it would take maybe 2-3 hrs.
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    Think tension

    If it isn't reinforced, you can get it by thinking tension or pulling out on the concrete starting with the window cut out. If it is reinforced, the skid steer and jack hammer may be the ticket. Just remember that concrete is enormously strong in compression but weak in tension so pull toward an unsupported area by digging the soil out on the exterior. It will take a while but it's possible. If you have a hammer drill you can help a lot by drilling some holes in a line for each break point. They break up very large chunks of granite and marble by drilling holes or making saw cuts and driving in wedges.

    If it's full of steel, get a bigger machine with a hammer or a track hoe.

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    Another vote for the skid steer and jack hammer attachment. I've seen track hoes with the same attachment but not sure if anybody would rent one. Might be a hire out for that big of a rig. The C4 idea would be fun though


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    I'm with Treefarmer. Excavate around the base and push or pull outward, away from the center. The pictures don't show signs of cracks in the concrete so you're going to have to help it with something.

    If it were me, I'd get a hammer drill due to the thickness and being able to control whai I was doing. I would spend some time putting holes the full height in an area two foot wide. Then taking the excavator I rented to remove the dirt, and I would pull the concrete apart where I put the holes. Once the circle is broken, its strength is greatly diminished, the rest will come down quickly. - assuming it's not reinforced.

    Please be careful once you start the demolition and think twice about getting inside. That's heavy stuff if it falls on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    If it isn't reinforced, you can get it by thinking tension or pulling out on the concrete starting with the window cut out. If it is reinforced, the skid steer and jack hammer may be the ticket. Just remember that concrete is enormously strong in compression but weak in tension so pull toward an unsupported area by digging the soil out on the exterior. It will take a while but it's possible. If you have a hammer drill you can help a lot by drilling some holes in a line for each break point. They break up very large chunks of granite and marble by drilling holes or making saw cuts and driving in wedges.

    If it's full of steel, get a bigger machine with a hammer or a track hoe.

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    Digging around it first is not a problem. That dirt needs to be moved anyway. I doubt there is any steel reinforcement. The only "footing" for the barn I found was NOT to current code for frost depth. It was at the south east corner, the only corner that did not have any dirt on at least one wall of the corner. They dug down 1 to 1 1/2 foot threw in big rocks and then poured about a 12" cap in 1/2 in and 1/2 out the ground. It was "L" shaped about 3' x 5'. It broke as the 6415 pulled it out. The rocks in the concrete of the silo might actually help it break easier?

    I do have a hammer drill, but would have to run it off a generator.

    I do have a piece of 4x4 square tubing I could put through the opening and yank with a chain

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    If you dig down and expose a section of it and use an electric jack hammer and break a section out, you should be ale to use the backhoe to break the rest of it down or out, A circle is only as strong as it is when whole and complete. Without rebar or metal re-enforcement it should crumble pretty easily. Are you going to implode the top half into the bottom half and back fill over it? You may want to get some fines or sand and a plate compacter to have it settle and fill all the nooks and crannies so you don't find yourself coming back with backfill as rain settles things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebrafive View Post
    Digging around it first is not a problem. That dirt needs to be moved anyway. I doubt there is any steel reinforcement. The only "footing" for the barn I found was NOT to current code for frost depth. It was at the south east corner, the only corner that did not have any dirt on at least one wall of the corner. They dug down 1 to 1 1/2 foot threw in big rocks and then poured about a 12" cap in 1/2 in and 1/2 out the ground. It was "L" shaped about 3' x 5'. It broke as the 6415 pulled it out. The rocks in the concrete of the silo might actually help it break easier?

    I do have a hammer drill, but would have to run it off a generator.

    I do have a piece of 4x4 square tubing I could put through the opening and yank with a chain
    Can you break it after the holes are drilled by pulling or pushing towards the center?
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