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    Balers for lower HP tractors?

    I'm going to be buying a tractor this summer in the 35 hp range with 24 or so at the PTO. The front runners are the 3033R (24 PTO) and LS XR 3135 (28 PTO) Hydros.

    I'd like to run a baler someday, but can never find the HP requirements when I find older balers. I remember my Grampa baling (I was one of the wagon stackers as a wee lad) with his 420 and if the spec site is right it had around 25 or 26 HP PTO, but no idea what baler model (JD) he had.

    Anyone have recommendations on certain vintage models or a site that gives the specs?

    Also giving serious thought to a new mini round baler, but no haying for the time being.


    My situation:
    I have a 6.5 ac fallow hay field I want to reclaim as well as access to about 12 more acres belonging to the original farm my property was carved from. AND if an out of state neighbor agrees I would have another 15 (ish) acres to hay also carved from the original farm. So potentially 25+acres to supply my budding homestead. The neighboring fields are being hayed now by someone who has to trailer his equipment in, but the on site owner has already given me the green light for his field.
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    I had a old John Deere 24T square baler that ran easily on 30pto hp ......its a backup now but it still makes good bales....i know there are some Small round balers like the Hesston 530,5530,730etc and other versions that take about 30hp but i have never owned one
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    It's not a matter of power running a baler like a 14T or 24T, the problem is having enough tractor to hold it back so you can maintain control on hills. Are you planning on dropping bales and then picking them up later or using an ejector? If you are using an ejector, I believe you will need a larger tractor.

    There are several posts and threads on GTT about small round balers and using small tractors on balers.
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    Here are some balers made specifically for compact tractors.

    Hay Balers from Tractor Tools Direct
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    DRobinson is exactly right. Some of those big balers used to run off of pony engines (instead of a PTO shaft) that were only 16HP. The HP isn't the issue. They're BIG and HEAVY. If you start rolling down a hill they'll push a small tractor all over the place and there isn't much you can do to stop it if you're on the tractor.

    There are several companies that make balers for small tractors like:

    Ibex
    Small Farm Innovations

    I've also seen companies that retrofit large balers (usually the New Holland's) to produce small bales but those would still have the weight issues.

    Just based on cost, it'd be cheaper to find a old beater tractor that is larger to run a conventional baler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRobinson View Post
    It's not a matter of power running a baler like a 14T or 24T, the problem is having enough tractor to hold it back so you can maintain control on hills. Are you planning on dropping bales and then picking them up later or using an ejector? If you are using an ejector, I believe you will need a larger tractor.

    There are several posts and threads on GTT about small round balers and using small tractors on balers.
    That's it right there, if you are just kicking on the ground a smaller tractor is fine. Our Ford 5000 runs our baler just fine but on the hills it's just flat scary, we normally use the White 2-85 for baling duties.
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    Thanks fellas!

    I've seen those mini baler sites and they do look promising and that's the direction I will likely go and for $6 grand or so, why not.

    My terrain is on a gentle slope, not sure of the angle, but point well taken on considering weight. Grampa's hay field was dead level so I guess the little 420 was enough, tho a fair bot heavier than a 3033 I s'pose.
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    Of course I could always skip the baler and go with this instead.



    I saw where another couple used some cattle panels to keep the stacks neat. Looked like giant cupcakes.
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    Or like this....my kind of girl....

    The Hay Pusher - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by coaltrain View Post
    Or like this....my kind of girl....

    The Hay Pusher - YouTube
    She's a cutie patootie for sure.

    I have an idea for a hay sweep using forks instead of a bucket. I might even try to recreate the Original Dearborn sweep adapted to forks.
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