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    Looking for wiring help from some experts

    I need some help finding a solution to a wiring problem in my wife school classroom. My wife is a music teacher so you can guess this time of year is busy with concerts. She has a stereo in her room that she also uses for concerts. She has to haul it down to the gym as well as two of the four speakers. I went and wired the speakers up with bullet connectors so that she could just unplug the speakers in her class room, move things to the gym and plug in the extension wiring I made for her complete with the correct bullet connectors. The problem is that the darn bullet connectors won't stay on. They either slide off, break off, or they are so darn hard to get apart my wife breaks them off and the wire as well. In two weeks I've put 20 new ones back on. The bigger issue is that the wiring is small, 18-20 gauge at most. If I crimp to hard, I cut the wire. If I don't crimp them hard enough, the bullet connectors just slide off. The connectors I'm currently using are these GB Bullet Splices at Blain's Farm & Fleet.

    Anybody got any ideas as to how I can make things easy to connect and disconnect without having to put new ends on each time? Is the wiring just to small of a gauge and I should just buy these GB GB-3 Orange WireGard Color - Coded Screw - On Wire Connectors at Blain's Farm & Fleet. Then could just un twist them and retwist once stuff is in the gym? Just looking for a way to make things easier on my wife when it comes to moving stuff for concerts.

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    I'm certainly not an expert in this area but if I need something to stay on a wire, I solder it. If it has to be connected and disconnected, I'll wrap the fitting and wire with tape and or use liquid tape to provide some strength to the connection.

    I would also suggest bigger wire. 18 ga. is ok if you are hooking it up and leaving it. For your use, I would go bigger. If it's a long run, it will help the amplifier out as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    I'm certainly not an expert in this area but if I need something to stay on a wire, I solder it. If it has to be connected and disconnected, I'll wrap the fitting and wire with tape and or use liquid tape to provide some strength to the connection.

    I would also suggest bigger wire. 18 ga. is ok if you are hooking it up and leaving it. For your use, I would go bigger. If it's a long run, it will help the amplifier out as well.

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    The small gauge is the issue on the speaker wires. I agree it's meant to hook up and leave, but unfortunately that isn't an option. I'm trying to find a third set of speakers currently. Then the four in the room can stay put, and she can use the longer wires I made and the third set of speakers for concerts. Problem is finding speakers that have the correct connections for the back of the stereo that actually sound decent.
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    Hiya,

    I take it that this is a low priced system with screw terminals on the rear of the speakers. 18G wire is OK for low power systems but there are so few strands it tends to break easily and often. Also, bullet connectors are meant for semi permanent connections such as wiring harness.

    I would suggest you replace the 18g with a cheap 2 conductor 120v polerized plug extension cord. Cut the cord in half, strip, tin and attach the wires to the amp and speakers and simply plug the plugs of the cord together. The polerized plug will assure the connections are right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomd999 View Post

    I would suggest you replace the 18g with a cheap 2 conductor 120v polerized plug extension cord. Cut the cord in half, strip, tin and attach the wires to the amp and speakers and simply plug the plugs of the cord together. The polerized plug will assure the connections are right.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    This.
    Quite a few bands I used to work with (doing sound) just used 12 gauge extension cords for speaker cable-cheap, easy, and readily available if there was an oopsy. You could get by with 14 or 16 for this system.
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    Those are nice! Great price too! Solder and heat shrink the wire connections and they should be very durable.


    One thing I thought of after posting that I don't like about the extension cord idea is that this is in a public place, so another person might try to plug into them or worse, plug one into the wall.
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    Another suggestion

    Would these work solder and shrink wrap for strength at joint

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUS FINK View Post
    Would these work solder and shrink wrap for strength at joint

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    This is what I was thinking, just got beat to it.
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    I always used regular 18ga lamp cord with 1/4 inch phone connectors as shown::::

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