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  • Three years with a 1025R: a "review" with some experience behind it

    When I was first looking to buy a tractor I started hunting down options and trying to understand, long-term, how some choices panned out for people. I have found lots of experiences here, and now, having been around for a while, recognize names and know some of the history of some of the others on this forum. Great! But when I was new to the forum and tractor research I didn't know the level of experience some had and it was more difficult to know what were the best choices when making a purchase. Hopefully, for somebody looking for a tractor, this post will help to answer some of the questions and confusion they're encountering based on my few years experience.
    We've just passed the three-year anniversary of owning a 1025R (and a house and property to use it on). You can see it in my signature, I've a 1025R, H120 loader with a 54" bucket, 260 backhoe, 54" mower, 54" snowblower, and a 647 rototiller. How has each purchase panned out?

    647 rototiller: a beast of a rototiller, it chews through hard clay like it's soft butter and makes walk-behind tillers look like a child's toy. We bought the tiller with the tractor (as we did for all of the attachments) in December when we bought the house, and while we knew gardening would be a significant interest to us, we didn't consider what our dirt might actually look like. Under the layers of leaves from years of unkept property we found grass that hardly grows because the topsoil layer is so thin and there's nothing but clay beneath it. It doesn't matter how much you till clay it still is hard and nothing grows in it. We've used the tiller a number of times in different areas turn the dirt but it's yielded few areas of good growable soil. In hindsight, if we knew how poor the soil was I would not have purchased the tiller. We've been building raised beds for most things.

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    1. tjburges26's Avatar
      tjburges26 -
      I have 10 acres of land and I just recently purchased a 1025R arrives tomorrow morning. Watching more and more videos of Tractor Time With Tim I'm happy with versatility! That being said with the amount of land I own I can't help but thinking I should've gone with a 2025R...

      What are your thoughts?
    1. jgayman's Avatar
      jgayman -
      Quote Originally Posted by tjburges26 View Post
      I have 10 acres of land and I just recently purchased a 1025R arrives tomorrow morning. Watching more and more videos of Tractor Time With Tim I'm happy with versatility! That being said with the amount of land I own I can't help but thinking I should've gone with a 2025R...

      What are your thoughts?
      I guess my thought is one of confusion. :-) The 1025R and 2025R are both 25HP tractors with very similar sized chassis. The main difference being the 2025R has slightly larger tires. They are both capably of performing very similar work loads.
    1. Sergeant's Avatar
      Sergeant -
      2025R
      Besides Bigger rear tires. It had a Different rear Transmissions and a different Frame

      The 6 things the 2025R shares In common with the 1025R
      Front Axle
      Engine
      Operators Position Layout
      260B Backhoe
      120R Loader
      PTO Hp the same as 1025R

      I would Not Have Bought the 2025R If the Only difference was Bigger rear Tires The different rear Transmission was another Key selling Point for Me along with the Different Frame. It May not Look Like Much On Paper But it really is so Much More tractor Than the 1 series It's Not a sub Compact It is a true Small Frame compact Like Buying a Old JD 850 Compact
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      jgayman -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant View Post
      2025R

      I would Not Have Bought the 2025R If the Only difference was Bigger rear Tires The different rear Transmission was another Key selling Point for Me along with the Different Frame. It May not Look Like Much On Paper But it really is so Much More tractor Than the 1 series It's Not a sub Compact It is a true Small Frame compact Like Buying a Old JD 850 Compact
      I'm just curious... where did you see any details about the transmission differences that made it a key selling point for the 2025R? The transmission specifications listed on the JD website for both tractors just lists "Hydrostatic - 2 range". And the transmission section in the brochure for both tractors says "Spur gear".

      About the only thing that jumps out at you from the marketing literature is the 1025R has a Limited Cat-1 3PH and the 2025R has a full Cat-1 3PH.
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      Sergeant -
      Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
      I'm just curious... where did you see any details about the transmission differences that made it a key selling point for the 2025R? The transmission specifications listed on the JD website for both tractors just lists "Hydrostatic - 2 range". And the transmission section in the brochure for both tractors says "Spur gear".

      About the only thing that jumps out at you from the marketing literature is the 1025R has a Limited Cat-1 3PH and the 2025R has a full Cat-1 3PH.
      I asked One of the actual design engineers From Deere who Happens to be a Good friend Of Mine. I made sure I Talked with Him Before I Upgraded. The Transmission is different from the 1 series Do to Capacities The amount of weigh the Rear Axle Can actually Carry. If it were the exact same design as He Put it the Part Number would have stayed the same as the 1 series. There is enough of a design difference In the Internal transmission. The Outer cases actually Look Pretty similar But You Have to Pay attention to the axle Carrier section of the Transmission and if You Look closely at the pumps with the naked eye You will also see the difference as well.



      Transmission assembly

      LVA23807 1025R as Of 2017 was also Used since 1026R

      LVA23387 2025R Gen II

      Transmission Pump

      LVA19953 1025R as Of 2017 was also Used since serial Number 210001 On 1026R

      LVA20625 2025R Gen II

      Technically the 2025R(Gen II) has a Limited Cat 1 3point Hitch do to Lift Height Though Deere seems to be dropping that In today's Product Literature But You will find it On the website Under specs Listing it as Limited. Manual says 882 Lbs 24inches Product Literature says 915lbs at 24inches It can actually lift more than 915Lbs But Deere is always very conservative On what they actually Publish For It's true Lift Capacity at 24inches On every Tractor they Make. As Deere figure's we users will get our self's Into trouble if we exceed there Published specs

    1. AugustaGJ's Avatar
      AugustaGJ -
      Take a look at this Video which does a nice comparison between the 1025R and 2025R.

      The John Deere 1025R compared to the John Deere 2025R - YouTube

      Note: I did work for John Deere before I retired, including the launch of the 1 Series and 2 Series Tractors. In addition, I now work for TriGreen Equipment.
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