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    825i shifter not matching label for gears selection.

    My friend has an 2012 825i Gator. Yesterday he said he problems with it shifting. When the lever is Neutral the gator is really in reverse. When in High it's really in Neutral. When in Low is really in High. Low can not be engaged.

    The lever has run out "slot travel" to go further from High to Low. This is moving the lever forward. Moving the lever backward, it will not go beyond Neutral (in the slot) to Reverse.

    My guess is the shift handle is bent, but I do not want to force it.

    What I have done so far:

    Confirmed when the shifter is in:
    1 Neutral, really in Reverse
    2 High, really Neutral
    3 when in Low really High

    Disconnected the shift cable at the transaxle. Put transmission in Neutral. Put shifter in Neutral. Cable yoke is about 3/4" from hooking to transaxle lever.

    Checked out cable is still mounted to bracket on transaxle.

    Tried to move the lever all the way rearward. It will not go further than Neutral. This was with cable disconnected from the transaxle. his was without forcing it.

    Crawled under the machine to see if there was a stick or something jamming the front shift lever. You can't see anything from below.

    I did not have any tools with me. So that's as far as I got.

    How do you take the cover off the shift lever to see how it works? Or can I remove the center "glove box" ? There are two cap screws in the bottom of it. Also a phillips screw near the front that I am not sure the purpose of.

    At first I thought the transaxle lever might have slipped a teeth or two on it's shaft, but the shaft is not splined, it only has a flat, so that lever has not slipped.

    So I am still thinking bent shift lever or something in there jamming it.

    Any one have this problem before?

    Anyone have a picture of the shift lever to compare to, to determine if his is bent?

    A google search for shifting problems were all clutch related. Maybe he had clutch problems and forced the shifter hard enough to bend it His clutch seems fine for what gears he can shift to.
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    Checking JD parts I found the shift lever has a new P/N. Makes me think there was bending/breaking problem that a new P/N was issued to correct
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    Without seeing it first hand I cant be 100%, but likely what has happened is that the bracket that the shift cable mounts to has moved. This is a common issue. It is not hard to readjust it. It just needs to be done in a specific order. I will post the procedures when I can access the system. I could try to explain it now but I may miss some step and get ya screwed up. Hate giving out false info!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcopterdoc View Post
    Without seeing it first hand I cant be 100%, but likely what has happened is that the bracket that the shift cable mounts to has moved. This is a common issue. It is not hard to readjust it. It just needs to be done in a specific order. I will post the procedures when I can access the system. I could try to explain it now but I may miss some step and get ya screwed up. Hate giving out false info!!
    Thanks for posting. I will wait for you to post the procedure.
    Would any pictures help? If so, LMK what you need and I can take and post.

    Which end of the cable?
    Transaxle end looks OK, but I am only seeing "after"
    Does the center console need to come off? If so, does screw, key 27, have to come out? Looking at the drawing, I can't figure out it's purpose. I also noticed key 21 has been changed to key 39, any idea why?
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    Perhaps the screenshots below will help?

    I suspect the primary clutch is likely the culprit with shift lever bending, as forcing the Gator into/out of gear will cause this.

    If you have continued problems please contact JD Clutch Doc for more information at [email protected]






    Please keep us updated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhill View Post
    Perhaps the screenshots below will help?

    I suspect the primary clutch is likely the culprit with shift lever bending, as forcing the Gator into/out of gear will cause this.

    If you have continued problems please contact JD Clutch Doc for more information at [email protected]






    Please keep us updated!
    I had the same thought, clutch problem making it hard to shift, then forcing it bent the lever. He said last time he drove it, he had a hard time getting it in gear.

    I did disconnect the cable at the transmission and put the shift lever in neutral and made sure the transaxle was in neutral (machine easily rolled) and cable was 3/4" to 1' short of connecting to the lever. Plus it (shift lever) stopped moving before reaching R (reverse) of the slot with the rear end of the cable disconnected.

    I think I am strong enough to bend the lever back, but first I am waiting for xcopterdoc to post the procedure about a bracket adjustment. I also worry trying to bend the lever , I might break it.

    I also due to lack of tools I did not take anything apart in the center console where the shift lever is.
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    Are the screen shots from an owner's manual or tech manual? I asked to look at his owner's manual, but he was not sure where it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebrafive View Post
    Are the screen shots from an owner's manual or tech manual? I asked to look at his owner's manual, but he was not sure where it was.
    The screenshots are from a John Deere 825i Technical Manual
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebrafive View Post
    I had the same thought, clutch problem making it hard to shift, then forcing it bent the lever. He said last time he drove it, he had a hard time getting it in gear.

    I did disconnect the cable at the transmission and put the shift lever in neutral and made sure the transaxle was in neutral (machine easily rolled) and cable was 3/4" to 1' short of connecting to the lever. Plus it (shift lever) stopped moving before reaching R (reverse) of the slot with the rear end of the cable disconnected.

    I think I am strong enough to bend the lever back, but first I am waiting for xcopterdoc to post the procedure about a bracket adjustment. I also worry trying to bend the lever , I might break it.

    I also due to lack of tools I did not take anything apart in the center console where the shift lever is.
    My apologies for not getting back to you. My wife ended up in the hospital and has been transferred to an acute care facility an hour away. I haven't been back to work in several days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcopterdoc View Post
    My apologies for not getting back to you. My wife ended up in the hospital and has been transferred to an acute care facility an hour away. I haven't been back to work in several days.

    Sent from my LGL52VL using Tapatalk

    Sorry to read this, our prayers are with you, your wife and family.
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