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    Question How much light is too much?

    I keep thinking about adding more lighting to the tractor, in particular for the nighttime after-work snow clearing that seems to happen a few times a year. Iím out in the boonies with no roadside lighting or city light pollution to help illuminate things. I need more forward lighting to really see and need back lighting so I can stop using the backhoe as an indicator of when to stop. (Bump. ďI guess thatís far enough.Ē)

    So Iíve looked a bit at some light bars. How much do I need 27 watt? 120 watt? 240 watt? I donít know if 240 is overkill. The stock headlights (50w x2) and the work lights (37.5w x2) = 170 watts... but thatís not lumen. How many lumen does that push out? I need more, but how much?

    Iíve seen lots of people adding the smaller round or square 27-35 watt LED lights. (Which is actually x2 output with two of them.) But is that enough? Doubling distance requires 4x the power to light, so...

    Any feedback appreciated.
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    Keep in mind that as a slow moving vehicle you don't really need to illuminate 100 yards out in front of the tractor. Likewise with behind the tractor. You are better off with lights that have a broader pattern.
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    I mounted 3 LED lights on my ROPS. 2 facing forward, 1 facing rearward. Each LED light is 18 watt/1260 lumens.

    When I flip all 3 of those on while clearing snow it's like daylight.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    P.S. The OEM headlamp bulbs for the 1025R are 37.5 watt/910 lumen "Type 862" bulbs. (JD Part # AXE16948)
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    I have 4 of those LED Lights and love them. 2 Forward and 2 Reversed at the top of my roll bar.
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    I have a small light bar mounted to sunshade from in front and small round mounted in back. Both a cheapies from Tractor Supply. They do an awesome job. The front light being high and forward really gets out in front of the snow Pusher.


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    You probably want to decide on how you will be powering them. If you use the stock work light circuit look up how many amps that can provide. On a 2032/38r that was 20 amps. The other option is trigger a relay off that circuit to get more power. I ended up up putting ~240 watts worth of LEDs on mine basically maxing the circuit (I didnít even think to check before). Itís plenty of light IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Keep in mind that as a slow moving vehicle you don't really need to illuminate 100 yards out in front of the tractor. Likewise with behind the tractor. You are better off with lights that have a broader pattern.
    This right here is what I would have said as well. You don't need to see very far as fast as these tractors are, I have floods on mine and it lights up about 50-60 ft in front and behind me like a football field under the lights.
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    Thanks for the feedback, all. I'm not yet set on how to power the lights, as I'm not sure if I want to add some extra switches to control them or not. If I want the existing work lights on, I would probably want the additional lights I'm thinking about adding, too. So then they don't need an extra switch. But, the flexibility of turning on/off what I need could be useful... If the draw is small enough I could just plug into the stock harness, which sounds easy, but I'm not opposed to running some new wire. Really, I just want to do this once and in my mind that means I need to figure out how much lighting I need to be comfortable seeing.

    I don't need to see far, you're right. Forward, I'm not sure I need to see any further at all, in fact. But I think adding some lights higher-up will prove far more useful than the headlights just because the loader or snowblower won't be in the way. Also, light from a different angle should help add dimension to the ground in front of me even if it's just helping to make the glassy texture of the snow come through. (My photography experience comes through here: am I adding some fill or a new key light? )

    Keep the comments coming!
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    I wouldnít bother adding additional switches. Iíve never found that I wanted any thing between the two stock light settings. Easier to just tie into the stock work light circuit thatís already nicely switched.


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    Quote Originally Posted by danwolfgang View Post
    Thanks for the feedback, all. I'm not yet set on how to power the lights, as I'm not sure if I want to add some extra switches to control them or not. If I want the existing work lights on, I would probably want the additional lights I'm thinking about adding, too. So then they don't need an extra switch. But, the flexibility of turning on/off what I need could be useful... If the draw is small enough I could just plug into the stock harness, which sounds easy, but I'm not opposed to running some new wire. Really, I just want to do this once and in my mind that means I need to figure out how much lighting I need to be comfortable seeing.

    I don't need to see far, you're right. Forward, I'm not sure I need to see any further at all, in fact. But I think adding some lights higher-up will prove far more useful than the headlights just because the loader or snowblower won't be in the way. Also, light from a different angle should help add dimension to the ground in front of me even if it's just helping to make the glassy texture of the snow come through. (My photography experience comes through here: am I adding some fill or a new key light? )

    Keep the comments coming!
    Not a SCUT, but a Z Trak that had no factory lights.

    Added 4 LED flood lights (10,060 Lumens total light output) to it.

    Two 2880 Lumen flood lights on the ROP. (3.17 Amp/48 Watt each)
    Two 2150 Lumen flood lights up front, low. (1.98 Amp/ 27 Watt each)

    10.3 Amps total current draw, all lights on.

    The Yanmar diesel on the ZT has a 40 Amp alternator so 10.3 Amps is no problem and
    the light output is awesome for mowing at night.

    Just to give you an idea about Watt versus Lumen comparison an example of light output and a rough conversion chart:
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails night mowing.jpg conversion chart.jpg
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