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    2720 Snow blower / chains guy slips over to the dark side

    Just came in from outside in the rain and sleet and just had to comment...

    So for the past 5 years I've been doing snow removal with my 2720 with chains on all four tires, 54" blower in front and a 60" rear blade. It has done everything I've ask, plowed through 5-foot drifts and never got stuck. My driveway is gravel and on a hill but the two neighbors are paved.

    I'm embarrassed to admit that today's snow storm caught me a little with my pants down. I didn't have time to rig up the snow blower and chains but I did have time to throw my Edge Tamers on the bucket and hook up the rear blade. The forecast called for 3-7 inches and I figured I should be able to easily handle that with the bucket and blade.

    We ended up getting every bit of 7" and then it started to sleet / rain on top of it. So out I go after dark to do some preliminary cleanup on my driveway and two neighbors. I've enjoyed reading all the debates about snow blower vs. plow vs. bucket and chains vs. no chains and was actually kind of anxious to see just how my 2720 with R4 tires would do sans chains in the snow. I do have loaded rear tires but I have never once tried clearing snow without chains.

    Well... immediately upon backing out of the garage it was apparent that this lightweight can't plow it's way out of a paper bag with chainless R4 tires. I almost got stuck immediately. I had the diff lock engaged and 3 tires spinning and I hadn't even started to push any snow. Ugh!

    I was out for a little over two hours and all I can say is if I had to clear snow with the loader and bucket I think I would sell the tractor and go back to my 33" MTD walk-behind. Talk about slow! Scrape - scoop - travel - dump... over and over and over. With the snow blower you make a few passes and you're pretty much done. Even when using the rear blade I can angle it to clean the driveway completely in a few passes. But with the bucket... not so much. You always end up with these huge piles of snow wherever you stop and it's almost impossible to clean them up. Thank goodness for the Edge Tamers at least I didn't tear up the gravel. The one neighbor with the flat paved driveway wasn't too bad as I didn't have many traction problems. But the second neighbor has a long paved driveway that goes up a hill. Without chains I could get UP the driveway with three tires spinning all the way but there was no way I could move any snow. I had to do all snow removal while coming down hill. During previous winters I was able to actually plow snow while going up the hill.

    I got the job done but it took twice as long, was twice as exhausting and I wasn't able to get surfaces quite as clean as I normally do.

    All I could think of was when I bought the tractor and how the salesman was telling me that with 4WD you wouldn't need tire chains. AH YEAH!

    Needless to say I'll be mounting up the 'ole chains at my earliest convenience. The experiment is over and chains rule! :-)
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    Heh. I bought chains for my 2032R 4 years ago and have never used them. I've plowed and run my 3pt blower with just the nekid R4s.
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    OK, I may have to reconsider!

    I spent 3 hours out there plowing 6" of slop this morning. Got stuck 3 or 4 times and every time I got stuck I thought about those chains sitting in the garage.

    Maybe I'll put them on before the next storm...
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    We get a lot of snow like you describe - mixed with sleet and/or freezing rain. I have a pretty steep grade up to the road - plus where my driveway meets the road the snow is at least twice as deep from the plow trucks. Without chains even not pushing snow - just driving up to plow downhill - I canít make it to the top without chains.

    I canít afford a snowblower so I have been using my bucket only (now with Edge Tamers) for 12 years now with this tractor. Yeah, it takes some time but I have it down to a science now. 800í of driveway with a large intersection takes me about 1.5 hours with a heavy snow like we have now.

    Time I have plenty of - money for a snowblower I donít. I just take my time and take breaks if need be.
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    Iím up on a hill along with the cattle barn. Made a Fel plow several years ago for my 790. Went to front chains and last two years chains on all 4. Cut my plowing time in half along with my frustration.
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    jgayman, I'm a chain guy, always have been. Sure/Maybe you can get the job done without them but.........
    Back in 1988, 12+ inches of snow, I got stuck twice trying to get our JD650 out of the shed.
    As for a further comment. It is amazing how much winter traction is lost as the R4's wear down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    OK, I may have to reconsider!

    I spent 3 hours out there plowing 6" of slop this morning. Got stuck 3 or 4 times and every time I got stuck I thought about those chains sitting in the garage.

    Maybe I'll put them on before the next storm...
    I wouldnít attempt to get up my steep driveway without chains even though the R3ís do better than previous R4ís.

    We got 10Ē over here about 1/2 mile from Nashoba Valley Ski Area. Wondered why they put that place over there and now I know why............


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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    OK, I may have to reconsider!

    I spent 3 hours out there plowing 6" of slop this morning. Got stuck 3 or 4 times and every time I got stuck I thought about those chains sitting in the garage.

    Maybe I'll put them on before the next storm...
    Sorry to hear that but you brought it on yourself with that "never needed them" comment. You should have at least knocked on wood!!
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    Just did my driveway this morning. I measured 9” of heavy wet stuff - the kind that packs instantly. I spun going up the driveway some with chains on the rear - and that is without plowing - bucket in the air. Without chains I wouldn’t have made it 1/4 of the way up.

    #chainsrule

    And the Edge Tamers saved the day for sure. The ground is still super saturated from all the rain the past couple months. Never picked up one piece of sod even doing trails across the lawn to the wood shed and pavillion.

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