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    Do you run out of traction or run out of power?

    Hi all,
    Following a discussion in the MCUT forum, I've been curious about other people's experience with HP, traction and ballast. Since this forum represents a great opportunity to gather data, I figured I'd put it to good use. If you wouldn't mind, please answer the following.

    When doing un-powered ground engagement such as pulling a box blade, land plane, plow, disk harrow, etc. (so NOT a tiller), do you find yourself running out of traction before running out of power, or running out of power before running out of traction?

    Also...

    What kind of tractor do you have? What kind of transmission (gear or hydro)? What type of tires? And finally, what kind of ballast are running (e.g. filled tires, wheel weights, etc.)?

    Thank you for your help!


    EDIT: If you ran out of power, was it your engine that quit on you or your transmission?
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    CC/Yanmar ex3200, 32hp. Loaded R4’s, 60” land plane, dirt driveway, incline, run out of traction in A range 4x2 when box really loads up
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    I've bogged down with a box blade in low range with MFWD engaged before losing traction. Discing is different because I'm on ground that is already loose from chisel plowing, so there I will lose traction before I lose power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJR832 View Post
    I've bogged down with a box blade in low range with MFWD engaged before losing traction. Discing is different because I'm on ground that is already loose from chisel plowing, so there I will lose traction before I lose power.
    Was it the engine that was “overloaded” or the transmission?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike01 View Post
    Was it the engine that was “overloaded” or the transmission?
    The engine, but, I've only had it happen twice.
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    This is probably going to depend what surface you're on. If you're on a surface that the wheels can grab really well without spinning, you might run out of power when the relief valve opens on the hydrostatic drive. If the ground allows the wheels to spin, you're going to lose traction and spin. I've done both on my 1026R.
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    I always run out of traction. I have a 2009 2520 with a hydro tranny, and R4 tires. I run a ballast box capable of weighing 980 lbs, but I rarely have it that heavy. Usually half to 3/4 max weight.
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    2038r, 2 range hydro, no wheel weights and don't have loaded tires.


    I've never run out of power, I always run out of traction.
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    Im assuming we are all talking about being in low gear as well.
    I dont still have it, but used to have a 955 with rear tires filled. It had R1 tires all around.
    It would always run out of traction long before power. I could dig ruts to China if I wanted with that thing, MFWD and diff lock engaged.
    Ive not heard of too many tractors that run out of traction before power. Following to see if anyone does have that "problem."

    My current 2025R does this too, but less aggressively as it has R4s on it. No loaded tires, but do have wheel weights plus about #500 pounds on the Imatch.
    I dont do ground engaging work with it much, mostly its pushing logs around or skidding logs/trees.
    The one time it came close to running out of power, I had a tree on the bucket and was lifting as I was trying to push it. It lugged down pretty good, but still spun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trboxman View Post
    2038r, 2 range hydro, no wheel weights and don't have loaded tires.


    I've never run out of power, I always run out of traction.
    The first statement is the reason for the second statement. These small plastic/aluminum tractors just do not have enough weight to put the HP to the ground.
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