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    What would you recommend as an upgrade to my JD4100?

    My JD4100 is a fantastic machine, and I have done more with it than I ever imagined. I've dug drainage ditches with the loader bucket, up-rooted small tree stumps with the forklift tines, graded and leveled fill and topsoil with the bucket and landscape rake, unloaded pallets from a tractor-trailer, and sooo much more. But there are limits, and that is the reason for this thread.

    A few times, like when I needed to unload a pallet of solid concrete blocks, or patio pavers, it just couldn't lift the load. So I had to remove about half the load by hand, before the forks could pick it up. I think the tractor has about a 950 or 980 lb lifting cap at 3'. Something like that.

    If I were to move up to a pre-owned but well-cared for tractor; I'd want something with maybe 32-35 hp that could pick up 1600-1800 lbs, and have a breakout force (for uprooting stumps or boulders), and probably rear SCV/ports. What would be a good choice. (keep in mind I'd be looking for pre-owned, as the CFO says she doesn't have a budget for this

    Any suggestions on what I should be looking for, or should I keep the 4100? It really does 90% or more of what I want it to do.
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    Good tractor works has a good web site with nice pre owned tractors. Would think a 2 or 3 series would fit the bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmich View Post
    Good tractor works has a good web site with nice pre owned tractors. Would think a 2 or 3 series would fit the bill.
    Thanks for the tip. I looked over there, and they do have a nice 3033, but sadly, is out of my price range, and I really don't need a cab. But I'll still keep a lookout over there.
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    What's the budget, and do you need financing? Financing on a used machine, is the hard part. Some places are able to help with it.

    I don't think a 3 series, let alone a 2 series, is going to lift 1600-1800lbs with the FEL, even with proper ballast.
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    The lift capacity of a 2 series is "up to 1,120 pounds".

    The lift capacity of a 3 series is "up to 1,122 pounds".

    You'll have to go to a 4 series which JD lists as a lift capacity of up to 2,222 pounds.

    For 10% of the time that is gonna be some

    From your post, you already get quite a bit done with the 4100 you have and are happy with.
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    OK, good info rtgt. Budget would include whatever I can get for my 4100, and I don't know what they might sell for. I guess I could say mine and 14-$15k ~

    So a 4 series could work, but obviously there must be other 4-series. Mine is a 4100, and I think JD made 4105, 4110, 4115, and some others. But I don't think you mean any of them.
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    I was going off of the ratings for the current new model tractors.

    Pretty sure a 4105 could have the lift capacity.

    It also depends on the loader it is equipped with. My 3R had two different loader options, the H160 and the H165.

    When you are looking at the different used models, make sure you check out which loader it has and find out what it's capacity is.

    You'll also want to make sure it is JDQA and not pin on.
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    Your current machine is probably the equivalent of a 2 series machine.
    Maybe look for a 3320, 3520, 3720? But I think even those are a little under what you want for loader lift.
    Maybe a 4120, it has the lift capacity you're looking for. They seem to range from 18-24k

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    A 4105 is pretty close too.
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    Stihl: MS250C/18", FS70R, HS45/18".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtgt View Post
    For 10% of the time that is gonna be some

    From your post, you already get quite a bit done with the 4100 you have and are happy with.
    As much as we like spending other peoples money, rtgt is right on it there.
    Outside of that 10%, how much do you really need/want a larger machine? Can you or your property, tolerate a larger machine (narrow fences, narrow woods, soft ground, low trees, etc.)?
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    2004 JD 797 (29hp Kawasaki) Z-Trak, 72" 7-Iron deck, Mulch blades, Carlisle AT101's.
    Stihl: MS250C/18", FS70R, HS45/18".

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    You sound like you are very happy with your 4100 and it has done 95% of what you have asked of it.

    If itís only being able to lift more with the forks - as was said - you are looking into a 4 series at the least to lift what you want.

    Living a frugal life I have become used to working with what I have.

    For the purpose of lifting pallets of block, pavers, etc. I am guessing you are having them delivered and they are coming in standard pallet loads.

    My work around would be either 1 of 2 things.

    Pick them up yourself. Have the staff help you split the pallets up to put on multiple pallets that you can lift.

    If having them delivered - ask the same of the vendor. Tell them what you can lift and ask them to deliver multiple pallets.

    Even if a vendor would charge you say....$50 for this service. Letís say you get 2 deliveries a year - thatís $100 a year. A far cry from buying a $30k-$40k tractor just to lift a couple pallets a couple times a year.

    Just running some off-the-hip numbers here....a 4044M with loader is around $34k. Being realistic, I think you might get $10k for your 4100 with loader. So you are looking at spending $24k to lift a few pallets which can be broken up with a phone call and a couple bucks.
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