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    Setup and freight charges

    I am in a process of acquire a new John Deere 1025R TLB. Based on dealer quote, there are $750 setup charge & $450 freight charge. Did you pay for setup and freight charges? How much did you pay?

    Can I setup the equipment myself?

    Greatly appreciate for additional info.


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    I think the freight charge is new, it was part of my quote, it was not on my last tractors that I recall. My freight was $575 on a 4066R. I am not sure if it’s the delivery of the tractor to the dealer, all options sent to the dealer, or both combined. Anyways, it’s there.

    Set up charges are valid, some dealers figure it in the price, others line item it. It’s a valid cost. My dealer does nice work and it’s worth it to me. Some things get complex.

    Enjoy your new tractor!


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    I've never paid freight charges on any John Deere equipment I've purchased. I always perform my own new equipment setup. Often dealers just employ some unskilled or semi-skilled help to perform new equipment setups. The numerous posts here about mower decks being improperly setup speak to that. I've only purchased from one dealer, but if DIY setup wasn't something they'd go along with, I'd go somewhere else. I just pick my implements and accessories up and they're still on the shipping pallet.

    Freight is an expense and ultimately, you'll pay for it whether it is built into the price or a separate line item. You just don't want to pay for it twice.

    If this dealer was pulling a new car dealership trick and charging you a processing and/or document fee, I'd be walking out the door...and have with a salesman chasing me.
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    Mine showed a freight charge of $56 but the a discount of $56, so I paid no freight, but I’m sure I paid for it one way or another.
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    The Deere "Build Your Own" site used to show that freight and setup fees were all included when you configured a machine. At some point over the last year they've changed the wording and now everything says "*Manufacturer's suggested price. Taxes, freight, setup, and delivery not included.".

    So it looks like charging for freight and setup is going to become the norm if it isn't already. Whether or not dealers will eat those costs to be able to make sales will be interesting to see.
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    Setup charge

    I think $750 setup charge is a lot of money.

    This is from John Deere website if you purchase online. Setup Included | John Deere US

    INCLUDED IN SETUP:*
    Remove the product from the environmentally friendly John Deere Envirocrate™ (a reusable steel shipping crate that reduces waste).
    Connect and fully charge the battery to maximize battery life and performance.
    Proper inflation of all tires to improve the life and performance of the tires.
    Check and add fluids as needed to extend the life of the engine and transmission.
    Examine and adjust belts as needed to reduce wear and extend belt life.
    Start and test the engine for proper performance.
    Test all safety systems, including neutral start and RIO (Reverse Implement Option).
    Enclose a copy of the Owner's Manual.
    Specific to mowers:
    Proper adjustment of mower deck position to improve cut quality.
    Examine the mower blades for sharpness.
    Engage the mower deck and check for proper operation.
    * Setup does not include delivery. Setup Included only applies to Buy Online purchases.

    I can do all of the above myself. If it is $100 for these tasks, I would think it is reasonable, but not $750.

    I think John Deere will ship the tractor to local John Deere dealer and you can pick it up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    I think $750 setup charge is a lot of money.

    This is from John Deere website if you purchase online. Setup Included | John Deere US

    INCLUDED IN SETUP:*
    Remove the product from the environmentally friendly John Deere Envirocrate™ (a reusable steel shipping crate that reduces waste).
    Connect and fully charge the battery to maximize battery life and performance.
    Proper inflation of all tires to improve the life and performance of the tires.
    Check and add fluids as needed to extend the life of the engine and transmission.
    Examine and adjust belts as needed to reduce wear and extend belt life.
    Start and test the engine for proper performance.
    Test all safety systems, including neutral start and RIO (Reverse Implement Option).
    Enclose a copy of the Owner's Manual.
    Specific to mowers:
    Proper adjustment of mower deck position to improve cut quality.
    Examine the mower blades for sharpness.
    Engage the mower deck and check for proper operation.
    * Setup does not include delivery. Setup Included only applies to Buy Online purchases.

    I can do all of the above myself. If it is $100 for these tasks, I would think it is reasonable, but not $750.

    I think John Deere will ship the tractor to local John Deere dealer and you can pick it up there.
    I want my selling dealer to make enough money from my purchase that they want to help me when I walk in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    I think $750 setup charge is a lot of money.

    This is from John Deere website if you purchase online. Setup Included | John Deere US

    INCLUDED IN SETUP:*
    Remove the product from the environmentally friendly John Deere Envirocrate™ (a reusable steel shipping crate that reduces waste).
    Connect and fully charge the battery to maximize battery life and performance.
    Proper inflation of all tires to improve the life and performance of the tires.
    Check and add fluids as needed to extend the life of the engine and transmission.
    Examine and adjust belts as needed to reduce wear and extend belt life.
    Start and test the engine for proper performance.
    Test all safety systems, including neutral start and RIO (Reverse Implement Option).
    Enclose a copy of the Owner's Manual.
    Specific to mowers:
    Proper adjustment of mower deck position to improve cut quality.
    Examine the mower blades for sharpness.
    Engage the mower deck and check for proper operation.
    * Setup does not include delivery. Setup Included only applies to Buy Online purchases.

    I can do all of the above myself. If it is $100 for these tasks, I would think it is reasonable, but not $750.

    I think John Deere will ship the tractor to local John Deere dealer and you can pick it up there.
    Unfortunately, Deere won't let you "Buy online" for a full TLB. As soon as you add any implement to the base machine their configuration tool sends your info off to a dealer for a quote. That list of what happens during setup also appears to target riding mowers. I don't think the bigger equipment is quite that simple.

    I'm not sure that matters much though. If you buy online you're paying full MSRP. Typically, people have been getting at least 10% off of MSRP in their price quotes from dealers. But maybe this shift in fees explains why more people are suddenly getting 20% off of MSRP for quotes. I suspect that dealers were just burying these setup fees in their markup on equipment. Now that they are identifying the setup fees as a separate line item, they can offer better "deals" on the pricing of the equipment itself.

    A 1025R with FILB is ~$29,500 MSRP at a minimum. That's what you'd pay if you bought online. Even if you pay the $750 setup fee, a 10% dealer discount would still end up costing you over $2,000 less.

    I'm not a fan of the fees either but if the math works out, it is what it is...
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    I just bought a new 1025r TLB during the drive green weekend mid May. There was no setup fee or freight charge. These dealers have so many of these machines setting on the lot . Dealing was not that hard to do. Push for what you want and get it. If one dealer will not budge find another. Get a price including everything. Then compare . The closest dealer might not be the best. Remember you have the money and they want it, make them work for it. Except nothing less. Also any dealer will service or sell you parts, that’s where the real money is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Maphesto View Post
    I want my selling dealer to make enough money from my purchase that they want to help me when I walk in.
    I want that too. But I'm not providing the wheelbarrow for them to haul my money away with either.
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