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    Need pointers on how to address 120r loader issue

    Hello all, I think this is my first post here though I've been lurking for a good while.

    So I just got my 1025r a few weeks back, and the loader works flawlessly for 3 of the operations (Curl, dump and raise). However when lowering the loader it moves fast and when I let go of the control the front end of the tractor bounces on it's springs madly.

    The reason I'm posting is to ask a rather noobish question.

    "Could this be related to lacking enough rear ballest?"

    I've been trying to figure out what could be going on.

    Anyway, please be kind if you can!
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    What if any ballast are you using?
    What if any loads do you have in the bucket?
    As far as I know there is no suspension on the 1025 so you must be bouncing the tires.
    A video would be most helpful.
    Are you pushing the stick ALL the way forward past the detent? That puts it in float mode and will drop it like a rock.

    And I'm by no means an expert, mostly a noob like you.
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    Your tractor doesn't have any springs so it isn't bouncing on that.

    When you are lowering your loader are you putting the joystick in the forward "lower" position? Or are you passing through the detent and allowing it to drop in float mode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybio View Post
    "Could this be related to lacking enough rear ballest?"
    Yes it can. However, even with a properly ballasted machine, quickly stopping the descent of a loaded bucket can bounce the tractor. Though, the bounce is from the front tires compressing and the rear tires unloading, as there are no springs.

    If you're asking this question, I bet you already know the answer. Proper ballast for a machine for the task at hand is not something to take lightly.
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    Thanks for the replys all, let me see if I can add info as requested:

    1> Ballest: I have loaded rear tires, and I've noticed it when I have my home made carry all on the 3-point...while not heavy, it isn't light. Well over 100 pounds with the 80 of the carry all and all the lumber I've added too it.

    2> Bucket is empty, no load...noticed it when re-positining with ratchet rake. Other than pushing brush I've no thad a meaningful load in the bucket just yet.

    3> Float: I don't think so, I'm barely moving the stick forward and when I let it re-center it jerks.

    Thanks for the correction on the springs guys! Guess I defaulted to "car thinking".

    I'll get the tractor out tomorrow and load the carry-all up with everything I can find to see if that helps. If it doesn't I'll try to grab a video.
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    What pressure are you running the front tires at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybio View Post



    2> Bucket is empty, no load...noticed it when re-positining with ratchet rake. Other than pushing brush I've no thad a meaningful load in the bucket just yet.



    I'll get the tractor out tomorrow and load the carry-all up with everything I can find to see if that helps. If it doesn't I'll try to grab a video.
    That seems a bit strange to me, a loaded bucket can catch all of us on occasion, doesn't take much pressure on the joystick to lower a loaded bucket, but an empty bucket is very easy to control.
    I think the video will help clarify this greatly.
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    You got me curious so I just went out and played with my 3320. It's a heavier tractor than a 1025R and has loaded rear tires and >600 lbs. in a ballast box.
    The front and rear tires are inflated to maximum and there are pallet forks and frame attached.

    Moving the loader down gently, but stopping its descent fast, causes the tractor to "bounce" slightly. Moving the SCV to float mode and quickly lowering the loader boom and then halting its descent rapidly causes the tractor to bounce even more. It's not like it will knock you out of the seat, but it's pretty obvious.

    Feathering the SCV transitions from down to quickly stopped with little noticeable bounce, but I can't say that I operate the tractor in that manner. I suppose I have just grown used to the various degrees of bounce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTManiac View Post
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    What pressure are you running the front tires at?
    Egads, I didn't even think of that! I haven't checked...I was just so happy when it was delivered I started doing stuff. Whopse, that's not wise!

    I'll check them, can't believe it didn't occur to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OxPath View Post
    You got me curious so I just went out and played with my 3320. It's a heavier tractor than a 1025R and has loaded rear tires and >600 lbs. in a ballast box.
    The front and rear tires are inflated to maximum and there are pallet forks and frame attached.

    Moving the loader down gently, but stopping its descent fast, causes the tractor to "bounce" slightly. Moving the SCV to float mode and quickly lowering the loader boom and then halting its descent rapidly causes the tractor to bounce even more. It's not like it will knock you out of the seat, but it's pretty obvious.

    Feathering the SCV transitions from down to quickly stopped with little noticeable bounce, but I can't say that I operate the tractor in that manner. I suppose I have just grown used to the various degrees of bounce.
    Perhaps it is just me having to adjust to the function, I am new at this!

    I think a video will help and let people judge if it is my expectations that need to be adjusted or there is something going on
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