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    The house: the hobby that got WAY out of hand

    Current project: upgrade electric service.

    This was the old, hated Federal Pacific panel
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    These are the new panels at the pole. Hard to see, but hubby dug trench last fall with the 1025r.
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    More of the trench
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    I had to dig the 10 ft at the house through almost solid limestone with a demo hammer. Took me 2 weeks.
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    New panels at the house
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    I AM excited to have this done.

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    I guess I don't understand. I see this a very much needed upgrade, not something that got out of hand.

    BTW, it looks like a nice job. I'm assuming you're burying all of the conduit?
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    Nice looking upgrade.
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    It's the house that got out of hand, not the service upgrade.

    We designed the house originally to be built in 3 sections. First section (Phase 1) was completed in 1976 by a contractor; second section (Phase 2) was built several years later by just hubby & myself except for the masonry; third section (Phase 3) was only framed out by a crew in 1989. Phase 3 had a mod to the original plan. Since the attic in Phase 1 was a bit too short to stand up in, we decided to raise the roof line. Well, then it was almost enough to make a room. So hubby thought that if we used a vaulted ceiling, he could shoot baskets upstairs. So I got on a ladder and measured the arc as he shot baskets. Had scissor trusses built to suit. Suddenly Phase 3 became 2 story. See what I mean? Out of Hand.

    I'm currently working on wiring & insulating the Upstairs of Phase 3, so thought this thread might be fun.

    Yes, the conduit will be buried after some other "stuff" is added to the trench.
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    Quote Originally Posted by etcallhome View Post
    Nice looking upgrade.
    Federal Pacific (stab/lock breakers) actually lost thier UL listing at a certain point. They had a lot of problems with the breaker to buss connection becoming resistive, hence heat, hence more resistance and eventually failure in terms of burning open or fire. I prefer SquareD-TTL not the HO line. The HO line is sold in box stores along with the lower line of levitone, delta and kholer in plumbing. They all have two ,"lines". A lot of guys don't know it but what you get in a real trade supply house in electrical or plumbing is a complete different quality than Home Depot/lowes even though it has the same name.

    Nice job on the new installation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firemark View Post
    Federal Pacific (stab/lock breakers) actually lost thier UL listing at a certain point. They had a lot of problems with the breaker to buss connection becoming resistive, hence heat, hence more resistance and eventually failure in terms of burning open or fire. I prefer SquareD-TTL not the HO line. The HO line is sold in box stores along with the lower line of levitone, delta and kholer in plumbing. They all have two ,"lines". A lot of guys don't know it but what you get in a real trade supply house in electrical or plumbing is a complete different quality than Home Depot/lowes even though it has the same name.

    Nice job on the new installation
    Very true that is why I always go to a local electrical or plumbing supply dealer instead of the big box stores.

    Plus the sales clerk brings your order to you instead of you looking all over the store for one item that should have been in the plumbing or electrical dept.
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    Looking good. Time to fix doors yet?
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    The new panels are all SquareD HO and all that great outside work was done by an electrician. I did ask about the TTL line before we started, but he felt the HO line was more than adequate for us. We also have 2 new interior SquareD subpanels that we put in and routed the "service" wires (from the outside panels), but had him make the actual connections. We wired Phase 2 and feel comfortable with that level of work. Did a bunch of the attic & inside work for this upgrade, but talked to the electrician about anything I was even slightly unsure of and had him inspect my new 220 attic air handler disconnect in Phase 1. I started the project with a spreadsheet of load, wire and breaker sizes that he checked. What a treasure! He even got a lot of our DIY supplies at his supply house. But I was already quite familiar with those places myself.

    Time to fix doors yet?
    Got the deadbolt in and working, but had to switch gears once the switchover date was set. Guess what I have on the schedule tomorrow (besides getting the Buick to the mechanic)?
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    Project: relocate plumbing for bar & kitchen/dining sinks

    Design for the kitchen/dining was changed a bit during framing from what was planned when the slab was poured. Nothing too major though. However changing from the originally planned circular stairs on one end of the FR to "open" stairs on the other end has presented a plumbing problem. The originally planned bar was located in what is now a landing for the stairs. So I need to move the plumbing. I don't see major problems with the drain side, but I'm not firm about the vent stack side.

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    Seen from the FR:

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    Seen from the kitchen (backside of bar) Notice all the headers. Originally there was going to be a pass-through here.
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    Here's the existing plumbing as seen from the kitchen (backside of bar)
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    Obviously I'm going to have to cut the elbow and route it right (from this view) for the bar sink. What I'm not sure about is the left end where the bar was in the orig design. Use the existing venting?
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    Viewed from the other side (FR/bar)
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    Or create a new vertical vent
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    Here's the existing venting: top pic is vent exit to roof in dining; next pic is across kitchen with dining on left and FR (bar) on right.
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    I am going to have to move the venting for the back-to-back dining/kitchen sinks to the kitchen side of the studs to allow depth for a fridge in the dining room. May relocate drain for outdoor kitchen sink at that time too.

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    From the kitchen:
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    So, any thoughts about vents including pipe sizes & pitch?

    Thanks.
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