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    im having trouble locating the d-box on the 42 year old septic system at my parents house i did find the plans for it and they seem dead on i measured and can see the dark green box shape in the grass but i dug down with the loader on the 1025 and only hit the gravel (should i dig deeper) the location is pretty flat so how far down would it be. i know coaltrain had something going on with his septic. so hope i dont offend anyone with starting a new thread though mine was a different issue with septic systems
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd1023epro View Post
    im having trouble locating the d-box on the 42 year old septic system at my parents house i did find the plans for it and they seem dead on i measured and can see the dark green box shape in the grass but i dug down with the loader on the 1025 and only hit the gravel (should i dig deeper) the location is pretty flat so how far down would it be. i know coaltrain had something going on with his septic. so hope i dont offend anyone with starting a new thread though mine was a different issue with septic systems
    You sure as heck didn't offend me. And, I wouldn't think it would offend anyone else.

    Find the depth of the tank outlet. The D-box will slightly be deeper than the outlet. It may not be an actual box. It may consist of one, or more "Y" pipes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyweight View Post
    You sure as heck didn't offend me. And, I wouldn't think it would offend anyone else.

    Find the depth of the tank outlet. The D-box will slightly be deeper than the outlet. It may not be an actual box. It may consist of one, or more "Y" pipes.
    ok the drawing i got thats from the county health dept has a the septic tank and a smaller box. i hope this matches whats actually in the ground
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    From what I experienced recently - also digging with my loader - is that everything was quite a bit deeper than I thought it was. I was taking very small bites since I didn't want to damage anything with my bucket teeth.

    I ended up doing what flyweight said above. I already had my tank exposed so I knew where the line exited it. I dug down next to the tank to find the pipe then followed it to where the junction was with the drain field. I didn't dig up the whole pipe - just spots along the way so I could follow where it was going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coaltrain View Post
    From what I experienced recently - also digging with my loader - is that everything was quite a bit deeper than I thought it was. I was taking very small bites since I didn't want to damage anything with my bucket teeth.

    I ended up doing what flyweight said above. I already had my tank exposed so I knew where the line exited it. I dug down next to the tank to find the pipe then followed it to where the junction was with the drain field. I didn't dig up the whole pipe - just spots along the way so I could follow where it was going.
    ok thanks ill have to try that it down pouring know so it will have to wait till later
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    Look where the waste line leaves the house and see if there is a clean out plug you can get to. Sending a snake down it a bit will give you the direction it goes. If it's non metal, send a snake down(carefully) and use a metal detector to trace it(in case there are bends). Be carefull about digging and busting up the box. It can get real ugly real fast.
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    If it rains

    If you hit a rainy spell, get a thin strong steel rod and probe for it. You can save a lot of digging. If you hit gravel you are probably over the actual iines as there is no reason for gravel around the D box.

    I wish I had buried a wire in the trench with the line from the septic to the D box. It would have made it a snap to find. I did make a sketch and put in a couple of clean out ports but my line is over 125' from the septic to the D box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firemark View Post
    Look where the waste line leaves the house and see if there is a clean out plug you can get to. Sending a snake down it a bit will give you the direction it goes. If it's non metal, send a snake down(carefully) and use a metal detector to trace it(in case there are bends). Be carefull about digging and busting up the box. It can get real ugly real fast.
    Years ago my BIL spent hours searching for his Mom's septic tank in the front yard of the house that his sister (my wife) and I are now renovating in southern Ohio. After many efforts of driving rods or spading in the most logical path from the house he brought in a backhoe and was able to locate the tank within a few scoops. My wife was home then and facilitated installing a concrete riser and cap. They also planted ornamental grass (aka " the boogeyman bush")just above the tank that remains to this day.

    Once you locate your tank and/or cleanout, by all means mark it for future efforts to re-access it...

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    As stated, first find your septic tank. Then use a rod and a hammer as mentioned to find the D box, it should not be that deep, the system uses evaporation along with absorption, that's why they are designed at a certain depth! . You will get an idea where it is located by the exit pipe from the tank, but there could be a turn in the 4" pipe, (lightly use the rod and hammer routine and keep on track of the pipe, Those driveway fiberglass reflector rods work great for this with metal hammer point). If you dig to deep as stated you could break the D box (they are not that structural) and now try to get the pipes into that new "leveled" box,, Impossible without using fernco fittings. There Is also another method you can use; call a drain repair/unclogger company that uses a video probe, they can tell where the probe is on your property and you will find that box fast. Cost; average is between 2-300 hundred bucks, much cheaper than replacing that D box.. and they will find anything you need them to find.. Good luck. Remember a shovel is insurance to a backhoe if you think you are close...You may not even have to dig up anything after the video people are there! They have the technology at their disposal. no pun intended... Jeff
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    ok i found it i was a foot to far over im going to have to jet the lines to get them cleaned out then put roebic k570 Leach And Drain Field Opener and wait and see the tank and the d box are in good shape i think the problem is the system is 42 years old and nobody has done maintenance other than pumping the tank out
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