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    1025r Hydraulic Pressure

    Does anyone know off hand what Deere calls for as for the Hydraulic pressure for the SCV loader ports on the 1025r with the H120 loader? I recently did a lifting force test on my loader using a hanging scale, ground anchors and chain, and just 560lbs of lifting force is all it would do, and that without anything on the loader, no bucket, no forks, nothing. A little disappointed to see thats all the lifting force it had, so my prime suspect is the pressure setting.
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    SCV pressure relief setting is 1990 lbs.
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    Agreed with Jeff B. 1025 Hyd. Schematic indicates 137 bar which translates to 1987 PSI.
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    Looks like the H120 specs are close to your test results. I always wonder if the Specs are derived by -
    a) Setting the pressure than measuring the lift capacity ?
    b) Engineering the lift capacity then setting the pressure?
    c) Calculating the lift capacity so it never results in lifting the rear wheels when using recommended rear ballast weight?

    I would guess "C" is the answer. Safety is their priority. If your rear wheels come off the ground the entire tractor can rotate quickly and roll.
    Particularly on a hill. They would probably tell you if you desire more lift cap, buy a larger tractor.

    You may want to read this thread to better understand the risk....http://www.greentractortalk.com/foru...-its-side.html
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    Yuuup I understand the risks, and I would always make sure I have proper ballast, I have the backhoe, which weighs 600lbs, which is nice because I can extend the boom all the way out if I need to, I have already ordered the pressure gauge from KBOH, so I can measure the pressure first before I do anything.
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    And if youll remember, last year, John Deere had the lift capacity at 836lbs for the H120 loader then just recently they changed it to 512lbs, no explanation was ever given for the change, my guess for liability reasons. Many of have seen this You tube video that compared the 1025r with the Kubota BX series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQrrHOe3UIU, which showed the 1025r lifting force at 1110 lbs of lifting force and breakout force at 1350/lbs, and the Kubota only 780lbs of lifting force and 930lbs of breakout force, So I was disappointed with the result of my little test.
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    60" MMM with Auto-Connect
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    260 Backhoe
    Artillian 3000lb Fork Frame w/42" Forks & Backrest
    Ken's Differential Lock Pedal
    Ken's Bolt On Hooks
    Mower Deck Axle
    Edge Tamers

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    That is strange, I easily lifted a 520# tiller on a skid into my pickup several times with Artillian forks using my 1025 and girlfriends 1023. My 1025 will also pick up my 8 foot poly plow I use on my truck, and I can only fork it at the end of the forks. Practically flattens my front tires at 22 psi when I do that but I only need to pick it up 8 inches to move it around.
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    Well maybe your pressure is set too low. You should know shortly when your gauge arrives...
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    Lifting capacity with the FEL has all to do with how far the load is ahead of the bucket pivot pin and how high the bucket is off the ground.

    The H120 FEL on a 1023E, 1026R, or 1025R has a break away force of 1725 lb. measured at the pivot at ground level. This is the initial force that it will develop at ground level. This doesn't mean you can lift 1725 lb.

    The lift capacity at full height is 703 lb. measured at the pivot. Capacity at full height, 19 1/2" ahead of the pivot point, is 512 lb. (this is the published spec.).
    Bucket roll back capacity at ground level is 1911 lb.

    Because the cylinder leverage angle changes as you lift, the lifting capacity goes down the higher the bucket gets. Also, when using forks, the farther ahead of the pivot point the load is, the less you will be able to lift.

    Essentially, at ground level you will be able to lift a fairly heavy lift off the ground but as the height increases, the FEL will stop lifting. So, if you just want to get the heavier load off the ground, it will probably do it. If you really want to lift something heavy, roll the bucket back at ground level. You will not be able to lift it but you can most likely roll it back enough to clear the ground.




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    Well, I got my gauge from Ken, Pressure is at 2000psi, so I guess everything is set right. I still would like to know how some of these people are able to lift the 800lbs that they claim, and the you tube video that claim it can lift 1100 lbs must be an outright lie
    2016 John Deere 1025R
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    H120 Loader
    260 Backhoe
    Artillian 3000lb Fork Frame w/42" Forks & Backrest
    Ken's Differential Lock Pedal
    Ken's Bolt On Hooks
    Mower Deck Axle
    Edge Tamers

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