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    What exactly is a power beyond kit?

    What is exactly is a "power beyond" kit and what does it do? I was under the impression that it is a continuous flow valve/system/thing, but if so, is it any different from a rear SCV that has a continuous flow option?
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    You are close...the PB kit provides a constant flow of hydraulic oil whenever the tractor is running, there is no "valve" to control it however. It is used to power devices tat have their own valves, such a backhoe or logsplitter.

    The rear SCV (Selective Control Valve) is used to control cylinders. The continuous flow option is usually rated at less flow (GPM) than the PB kit since the fluid is flowing through the orifices and couplers of the valve body, that also generates some heat. On a compact tractor, it would have very limited use IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
    You are close...the PB kit provides a constant flow of hydraulic oil whenever the tractor is running, there is no "valve" to control it however. It is used to power devices tat have their own valves, such a backhoe or logsplitter.

    The rear SCV (Selective Control Valve) is used to control cylinders. The continuous flow option is usually rated at less flow (GPM) than the PB kit since the fluid is flowing through the orifices and couplers of the valve body, that also generates some heat. On a compact tractor, it would have very limited use IMHO.
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    So if you were powering a log splitter that ran off of continuous flow hydraulics, would you be able to power it with either? If so, which would be better? Logic says power beyond, since it's a higher flow, but would it be too much, since it's meant for a back hoe?
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    For a logspliiter you should use the PB, less heat and faster action are the main reasons.


    So if you were powering a log splitter that ran off of continuous flow hydraulics, would you be able to power it with either?
    Do you mean "operate" it from either? If so then no, not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
    For a logspliiter you should use the PB, less heat and faster action are the main reasons.


    Do you mean "operate" it from either? If so then no, not really.
    I meant power it, as in provide the hydraulic flow that makes it work. What do you mean? No, the continuous flow of a rear SCV wouldn't be enough flow volume for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike01 View Post
    I meant power it, as in provide the hydraulic flow that makes it work. What do you mean? No, the continuous flow of a rear SCV wouldn't be enough flow volume for it?
    I don't understand your question then...If you powering it from the SCV w/CF, then what other thing are you going to power it from in your "either" example?

    So if you were powering a log splitter that ran off of continuous flow hydraulics, would you be able to power it with either?

    That is my guess, plus as I wrote it will generate more heat-not a good thing.


    My advice, FWIW, is if you want to power a backhoe or logsplitter is to use the PB option as I wrote in my first reply.
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    I meant could you power (provide hydraulic flow to make it work) something like a log splitter with either a PB or an SCV set to continuous flow?

    If not, if it requires a PB...what do people use continuous flow mode on a rear SCV for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
    My advice, FWIW, is if you want to power a backhoe or logsplitter is to use the PB option as I wrote in my first reply.
    I don't have a PB, as I don't any use for a back hoe. I am just wondering what I can do with my rear SCV besides top and tilt, and was curious about continuous flow and how that differed from PB. Thank you for your answer!
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    What exactly is a power beyond kit?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike01 View Post
    I meant could you power (provide hydraulic flow to make it work) something like a log splitter with either a PB or an SCV set to continuous flow?

    If not, if it requires a PB...what do people use continuous flow mode on a rear SCV for?
    You can use either the PB or SCV with CF to power a log splitter or similar. The PB will do it better, but if you already have/need the SCVs then you might as well use that instead of the added cost of the PB.

    PB is the same as SCV with CF enabled functionality. It just isn’t optimized for that mode so less efficient.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mike01 View Post

    If not, if it requires a PB...what do people use continuous flow mode on a rear SCV for?
    A good application would be a spreader or a hydraulic sickle mower.

    Powering a log splitter from the power beyond of a 2 series would be like watching latex paint dry.

    Powering a log splitter from an SCV would be like watching oil based paint dry.

    A continuous flow SCV saves you the trouble of holding the lever for things you want to run continuously.

    Power beyond is just a power supply for things that have their own control valves.

    Like Kenny said...I just wanted to repeat it a different way so it would have a better chance of sinking in
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    I am not expert on this but a compact really doesn’t flow much, only around 5gpm. Older skid loaders flow around 10gpm, newer upwards of 20gpm through similar or in the case of older one the same couplers at similar pressures. I can see where the PB should have less restriction and less heat but would it really make a difference in speed for something like a log splitter since the gpm supply is not there.

    I am not asking to debate it, only to learn something.
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