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    Tongue weight same as ballast?

    I've been hauling firewood lately with my x728 and was thinking about about attaching my wagon to increase the hauling capacity. In order to attach the wagon I need to remove the suitcase weights (rear ballast). Question - if I load the wagon full of wood first, will it serve as a substitute for the suitcase weights (rear ballast) to counter the firewood in the bucket?
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    Weight is weight as long as it is consistent weight. I'd be worried that with a trailer the tongue weight wouldn't be consistent and bad things could happen.
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    I'd say it depends on where your trailer ball is. If it's at the end of your lower 3point arms and the trailer tongue weight is heavy it might be close. If it's down on the drawbar the trailer won't have anywhere near as much leverage as the weights do due to the pivot being closer to the tractor.

    Hopefully that makes sense.

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    I would look into having a receiver hitch added to your weight rack. There is no way IMHO that the tongue weight on a small trailer would equal those suitcase weights.
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    That sounds like a great idea. I'm not used to little trailers. Mine has 1000 lb pin weight when it's empty.
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    Wagons and trailers are different! Wagons have no tongue weight! Maybe you just mis-spoke.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty370 View Post
    Wagons and trailers are different! Wagons have no tongue weight! Maybe you just mis-spoke.........
    Very good point. I read wagon and thought trailer.
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    I have to concur with adding a receiver to the weight rack as the best of all worlds. Actually a two wheeled trailer in an uphill position can actually begin to lift the tongue if the load is balanced on the axles, which most garden style trailers are designed to do. If you elected to remove suitcase weights and pull a trailer, you should consider wheel weights or loading the tires as an alternative. I suspect adding a receiver to the weight rack is the cheapest of these options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psrumors View Post
    Very good point. I read wagon and thought trailer.
    Ditto. Good catch.

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