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    Middle buster suggestions anyone

    I have an 855 tractor-24 horse- John Deere of course. I'm looking to buy a middle buster. I want to use it to help lay in some 4 inch sewer pipe for the run off of roof rainwater. I've looked at CountryLine at Tractor supply & I think that brand can do it because I have nothing but clay soil here, no rocks. Then there is King Kutter at Northern Tool, and the last one I've seen is from Lowery manufacturing.com Lowery Manufacturing, Inc. -LMC Farm Equipment

    The Lowery appears to be a really well made tool & can go deeper than any of the others. It has plenty of clearance between the top of the point blade and the cross frame so, you have a lot of clearance for removing the soil & rolling it over. Between all of these middle busters, they average about $150. except the Lowery runs around $195-200. I know I could do the job with the less beefier tools, but the Lowery is tempting for the extra $50. Any of you fells out there have experience with these middle busters, let me know what you think.

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    I had a King Kutter middle buster, and I believe it's made by the same company that builds County Line. It wouldn't go deep enough for what I was doing so I bought the KK subsoiler and put the wide middle buster foot on it. It works well when paired with an appropriate tractor.

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    I also have an 855....
    I have pulled my home made middle buster full depth for short distances...

    I'm going to say if you have hard clay ground, you might try to make several passes...
    First with a sub soil tool at progressive depths to you finished depth...
    Then progressive passes with the middle buster to open the ground to the width you need...

    Both the sub soil tool, and the middle buster mount into the receiver hitch socket....
    I ground a sharper edge on the sub soil shank because of tree roots...
    The middle buster doesn't roll over a lot of soil because of the narrow cultivator sweeps..
    But it did break up the soil well...
    I do have my rear turf tires loaded... That seems to help a lot...
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    I bent my homemade subsoiler. It was 2x2 1/4" wall receiver stock. Click image for larger version.

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    I sure didn't think that was going to happen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberShanks View Post
    I bent my homemade subsoiler. It was 2x2 1/4" wall receiver stock. Click image for larger version.

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    I sure didn't think that was going to happen...

    Jim
    Most of what I've been reading about these tools generally points to middle buster or subsoiler failure when the main body is fabed out of square tube. You would not think that could happen! I see now that most of the well made tools are made with a 3/4 inch thick by at least 4 inch wide main frame-that is the frame or arn that the subsoiler blade or the middle buster plow is attached to. It's a very interesting to me. Who would of thunk all that goes into the making of such a simple looking, low functioning tool. Sorry! I didn't want to- but I did get a chckle from that photo of yours.

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    No worries, it gave me a chance to play with tools, and weld things up. The cultivator did work quite well, I was just trying to combine 2 tools into 1. Live and learn. FWIW, what I welded did stay together...

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    This is why I mentioned the part about "paired with an appropriate tractor."

    That's a TSC subsoiler, after being pulled by a 5320 and hitting a large buried rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 56FordGuy View Post
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    This is why I mentioned the part about "paired with an appropriate tractor."

    That's a TSC subsoiler, after being pulled by a 5320 and hitting a large buried rock.
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    Yup, anything can break. Here's a 10K rated recovery hook after getting pulled apparently too hard with my Jeep, never did find the other part of it...

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    '11 3005 4wd R4s w/300 & 60" Std w/Pirahna tb, Artillian 36" forks, Custom 83" SnowBear front blade, Frontier RB2060 blade, King Kutter TG-G-60 tiller and RFM-72 mower, Spee-Co Model-65 phd, Fimco LG-40-3PT sprayer, Tarter SUBY and TMY, Agri-Fab 24x48LR lawn roller & John Deere BW15073 and 6x42lb weights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberShanks View Post
    No worries, it gave me a chance to play with tools, and weld things up. The cultivator did work quite well, I was just trying to combine 2 tools into 1. Live and learn. FWIW, what I welded did stay together...

    Jim
    Jim- If I had a welding outfit, I would go down the same road as you & try my hand at building my own middle buster and several other implements. To a lot of people it would be work- to me its just fun to mess around with some of this stuff.

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