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    220R loader capacity

    So the way I understand it is the 220R loader can lift 1120#. Is that taking the bucket into account? In other words, I take my bucket off. I put on a 300# fork attachment. How much can I lift with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepy View Post
    So the way I understand it is the 220R loader can lift 1120#. Is that taking the bucket into account? In other words, I take my bucket off. I put on a 300# fork attachment. How much can I lift with it?
    I believe the answer to your question is 820# (1120-300=820)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HomesteadJoe View Post
    I believe the answer to your question is 820# (1120-300=820)

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    Wouldn't it make more sense to be 1120 + bucket weight - 300? I really doubt whether the lift capacity is rated to have to include the bucket's own weight (i.e. they are giving the lift capacity of empty loader arms). Said another way, the lifting capacity with forks is changed by the net difference in weight of the forks vs. the bucket.

    For the OP, you also have to take into account the distance ahead of the loader arm mount when talking about fork capacity. If my above equation held, that would apply to weight located basically at the point on the forks where the bucket's center of mass would have been. If you move the weight out further the capacity goes down as distance increases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue View Post
    Wouldn't it make more sense to be 1120 + bucket weight - 300? I really doubt whether the lift capacity is rated to have to include the bucket's own weight (i.e. they are giving the lift capacity of empty loader arms). Said another way, the lifting capacity with forks is changed by the net difference in weight of the forks vs. the bucket.

    For the OP, you also have to take into account the distance ahead of the loader arm mount when talking about fork capacity. If my above equation held, that would apply to weight located basically at the point on the forks where the bucket's center of mass would have been. If you move the weight out further the capacity goes down as distance increases.

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    BigBlue,
    I respectfully disagree as the JD website (https://www.deere.com/en/loaders/fro...s/220r-loader/) describes the "Loader" lift capacity from pivot point "U". (http://manuals.deere.com/omview/OMW4..._15MAR02_1.htm)

    I stick with my original answer.

    I believe the answer to sleepy's question is 820# (1120-300=820)

    I could be wrong....

    Sincerely
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue View Post
    Wouldn't it make more sense to be 1120 + bucket weight - 300? I really doubt whether the lift capacity is rated to have to include the bucket's own weight (i.e. they are giving the lift capacity of empty loader arms). Said another way, the lifting capacity with forks is changed by the net difference in weight of the forks vs. the bucket.

    For the OP, you also have to take into account the distance ahead of the loader arm mount when talking about fork capacity. If my above equation held, that would apply to weight located basically at the point on the forks where the bucket's center of mass would have been. If you move the weight out further the capacity goes down as distance increases.

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    Yes, they are giving you the lift capacity at the pivot, before whatever attachment you put on.
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    Interesting. Not intuitive to me. Not saying you're wrong, just that it doesn't make a lot of sense.

    How about breakout force? Where would they measure that from if there is no bucket installed? Is that simply the power of the curl ram to pull back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJR832 View Post
    Yes, they are giving you the lift capacity at the pivot, before whatever attachment you put on.
    That's the way I understand it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue View Post
    Interesting. Not intuitive to me. Not saying you're wrong, just that it doesn't make a lot of sense.

    How about breakout force? Where would they measure that from if there is no bucket installed? Is that simply the power of the curl ram to pull back?

    Rob
    Breakout force of bucket vs lift capacity of load arms.
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    Anyway you slice it, JD is very modest when it comes to capabilities, from HP to lift capacity. All I know is so far anything I have tried to pick up I have picked up, from 4 x 4 round bales to a bucket of whatever to a four man hot tub.
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    keep in mind that with forks, your capacity is very reduced. The loader manual spec sheet may have a spec for forks. my 460 manual says that my loader has 1900 +/-80 lbs. of capacity at 59". But with forks, it says that the capacity is 980 or so pounds. does your manual have this?
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