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    Model 35 rototiller off of a 400, on a 1025R

    i'm like, 95% sure this wouldn't work out, but there's a guy selling a "model 35" tiller that they've used on their 400 garden tractor.. so, I've gather that it's an 840RPM PTO, and cat 0... and possibly spins the opposite of my 1025R, and thus I shouldn't give it another thought, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisc1985 View Post
    i'm like, 95% sure this wouldn't work out, but there's a guy selling a "model 35" tiller that they've used on their 400 garden tractor.. so, I've gather that it's an 840RPM PTO, and cat 0... and possibly spins the opposite of my 1025R, and thus I shouldn't give it another thought, right?
    The 400 is 800rpm and it is a cat zero. I don’t remember which way at Spins but I could go out and check it if you would like. Send me a pm if you do. Edit, just checked both pto’s spin the same direction.

    It is geared down a long way from what the 2038 is. I don’t know how fast the 1025 tiller rotor spins but the 2series has to be twice as fast as the 400’s model 35 rotor. If it’s spins twice as fast with 2/3 the input rpm it would spin slow on a 540.

    Otherwise the 35 is very heavy duty and would probably handle what the 1025R could give it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herminator365 View Post
    The 400 is 800rpm and it is a cat zero. I donít remember which way at Spins but I could go out and check it if you would like. Send me a pm if you do.

    It is geared down a long way from what the 2038 is. I donít know how fast the 1025 tiller rotor spins but the 2series has to be twice as fast as the 400ís model 35 rotor. If itís spins twice as fast with 2/3 the input rpm it would spin slow on a 540.

    Otherwise the 35 is very heavy duty and would probably handle what the 1025R could give it.
    wait, so you say it spins FASTER on the 2038 than it does on the 400? have you actually tilled with the 35 on the 2038?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewisc1985 View Post
    wait, so you say it spins FASTER on the 2038 than it does on the 400? have you actually tilled with the 35 on the 2038?
    No, I meant the rotor in the 665 tiller that is on the 2038R spins very fast with a 540.

    The rotor on the 35 tiller that is on the 400 spins much slower even though the input is 800rpm. I did edit my post above, they do both spin the same way.
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    I have a 35 tiller on a 400. The rear PTO out put is 840 RPM not 800, what it actually is at the tiller tines I am not sure but it does seem kind of slow compared to tine speed on a 647 tiller. The 35 tiller is set up for CAT 0. I would not try and make it work on a 1 series as it will spin too slow since the out put of the rear PTO on a 1 series is 540 rpm. The PTO speed on a 1 series is 36% slower than on a 400, which in my mind will make a drastic difference in performance. The 840 rpm PTO speed is only found on the 400. This was back in the day when JD was using their own standard PTO speed for its implements. They also used 2000 RPM rear PTO speed for some of their garden tractors before standardizing them at 540 with the rest of the industry in the 1990's.

    While the 35 tiller is a beast of a tiller I would not even consider trying to make it work on a 1 series. They are many generations apart for one thing and a 35 tiller is some what rare probably best left to folks who have 400's. In other words leave it original in order to maintain value. The tiller it self goes for anywhere between $800 to $1200 (my experience when looking for mine) depending if it comes with the Rear PTO (the rear PTO on a 400 is not permanently mounted to the tractor).
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