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    Give or take with grapples...

    Ive been in the market for a grapple for my 2006 4120. After narrowing my choices I have one last hurdle that I cant find a nice compromise for. Opening width of the top clamps. There really does not seem to be a nice compromise when it comes to what will fit my tractor.
    I really had my heart set on the MTL RK5 until I realized that the clamp opening is only 26" That is super narrow for picking up stacked brush piles. Not to mention one will be limited to smaller stumps etc etc.
    The grapples that offer a much wider opening have a very shallow tine depth on the bottom of the grapple. while this is good for root work I feel that performance suffers when trying to handle brush and logs etc etc.
    The only way that I have found to over come this is stepping up to a skid steer grapple which puts the grapple in the 700-900 pound range. That is far to heavy for the 4120/
    So, can anyone here offer any real world experience with grapples in the 650 pound or less range?
    Please keep in mind that I want to stay away from the light duty stuff at all costs.
    Thanks for any and all input.
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    Grapple Suggestion

    I have an EA grapple, so I might be a little biased. This 60” Model has a 37” opening and only weighs 382 pounds.
    Have had mine for a couple of years and it’s very strong and handy as pockets on pants. I have the dual lid model. Some prefer the single lid though. Www.everythingattachments.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imaybail View Post
    I have an EA grapple, so I might be a little biased. This 60” Model has a 37” opening and only weighs 382 pounds.
    Have had mine for a couple of years and it’s very strong and handy as pockets on pants. I have the dual lid model. Some prefer the single lid though. Www.everythingattachments.com

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    Is yours the same as the wicked model from everything attachments?
    How do you find it working when you stick a brush pile to pick it up? Seems to me with the angled bottom at the tips one would have to adjust the angle of attack to pick up brush efficiently.
    Do you have any videos of you working with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by getafterit View Post
    Is yours the same as the wicked model from everything attachments? Yes, mine is the Wicked model with dual lids.
    How do you find it working when you stick a brush pile to pick it up? Seems to me with the angled bottom at the tips one would have to adjust the angle of attack to pick up brush efficiently. You do have to angle it down some when pushing into a brush pile to get under it, or come down from the top and grab it that way.
    Do you have any videos of you working with it?
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    Don’t have any of me working in brush piles, but have this one of clearing small trees.


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    I have the Woods 65", which is 680# and made for full size skidsteers up to 10Klbs IIRC. I've smashed it into stumps, picked the rear end up more times than I can count, pried root balls out of the ground, and generally treated it like I don't love it (which is not true!): it keeps on delivering smiles.

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    W R Long

    I have the W R Long 4 in 1 bucket, it's a tank and I've had zero problems. Check out their Grapples as I'm sure they have the same quality.

    https://www.wrlonginc.com/grapples
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    Using a grapple on brush

    Quote Originally Posted by getafterit View Post
    Is yours the same as the wicked model from everything attachments?
    How do you find it working when you stick a brush pile to pick it up? Seems to me with the angled bottom at the tips one would have to adjust the angle of attack to pick up brush efficiently.
    Do you have any videos of you working with it?
    My son taught me the best way to use a grapple on brush. I slide the grapple with the points angled slightly down under the edge of the pile until it starts to compress. Then while still moving slowly forward roll the grapple down and elevate the lift arms until the grapple is almost at 90 degrees to the ground. Close grapple, roll it back and lift. It sounds complicated but once mastered you get a full load pretty much every time.

    I understand your dilemma on getting the right grapple but don't agonize too long. I've got a grapple off a mini skid steer and it's not perfect but is way, way better than no grapple at all. I wish it had a wider opening, teeth closed slightly closer to each other and had more closing hydraulic power. Even with it's faults, anyone trying to take it away had better have a better one to give me or there would be a fight. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    My son taught me the best way to use a grapple on brush. I slide the grapple with the points angled slightly down under the edge of the pile until it starts to compress. Then while still moving slowly forward roll the grapple down and elevate the lift arms until the grapple is almost at 90 degrees to the ground. Close grapple, roll it back and lift. It sounds complicated but once mastered you get a full load pretty much every time.

    I understand your dilemma on getting the right grapple but don't agonize too long. I've got a grapple off a mini skid steer and it's not perfect but is way, way better than no grapple at all. I wish it had a wider opening, teeth closed slightly closer to each other and had more closing hydraulic power. Even with it's faults, anyone trying to take it away had better have a better one to give me or there would be a fight. . .

    Treefarmer
    This is the most effective method for picking up piles of brush I have found, it is very effective even for my 2r series and my Artillian grapple with a single lid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    My son taught me the best way to use a grapple on brush. I slide the grapple with the points angled slightly down under the edge of the pile until it starts to compress. Then while still moving slowly forward roll the grapple down and elevate the lift arms until the grapple is almost at 90 degrees to the ground. Close grapple, roll it back and lift. It sounds complicated but once mastered you get a full load pretty much every time.

    I understand your dilemma on getting the right grapple but don't agonize too long. I've got a grapple off a mini skid steer and it's not perfect but is way, way better than no grapple at all. I wish it had a wider opening, teeth closed slightly closer to each other and had more closing hydraulic power. Even with it's faults, anyone trying to take it away had better have a better one to give me or there would be a fight. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by balrog006 View Post
    This is the most effective method for picking up piles of brush I have found, it is very effective even for my 2r series and my Artillian grapple with a single lid.
    Also how I pick up small brush piles. I've been pulling Autumn Olive. Making a pile. When the pile looks like a full grapple load I pick it and carry to the burn pile
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    My son taught me the best way to use a grapple on brush. I slide the grapple with the points angled slightly down under the edge of the pile until it starts to compress. Then while still moving slowly forward roll the grapple down and elevate the lift arms until the grapple is almost at 90 degrees to the ground. Close grapple, roll it back and lift. It sounds complicated but once mastered you get a full load pretty much every time.
    Dad taught me this same trick, as it also works well for getting the best bite on large round bales. With larger tractors/loaders of course.
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