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    Need some help on if when a piece was MFG matters?

    I forgot there are people on here that take great delight in being condescending to others. I removed the post to make them happy.
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    This comes up fairly often on here. I personally think the issue is over-blown but I can see why people get irked too.

    Quote Originally Posted by USAFRet View Post
    If I buy a left over 2016 car in 2017 it is new but it still a 2016. Why isn't this the same for tractors?

    Thanks for any help on this but I think a customer should have the right to know the mfg year of any equipment he/she is buying...........
    It isn't the same for tractors because tractor manufacturer's aren't using the same sales gimmicks that car manufacturer's are using. The folks that make cars have convinced us that buying the newest model year means you are getting something "better". You're buying the "latest and greatest". Even if you aren't. For the car maker, the "model year" is a big deal because they made it a big deal. And they try to convince us that it's a big deal as a sales gimmick.

    Tractor manufacturers rely on serial number break (for minor changes) or model number changes (for major changes) to signify when they make a change to a tractor, not the model year. They don't really care about model years at all.

    So let's change up your question a little here. You walk onto a dealer's lot and they have two identical 2018 Ford Mustangs that you are interested in. One was built in Dec 2017. The other was built in Jan 2018. Do you care? A 2018 Ford Mustang is a 2018 Ford Mustang, isn't it?

    And even if you did care and bought the one that was built in Jan 2018, do you check to see when the engine that is in that car was built? Or when the tires were made? Or when the bolts that hold the whole thing together were made? Would you be upset of you bought a 2018 car and found out that the engine it it was built in 2017?
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    Agreed Jim.

    In all my years I have never seen model years of tractors causing any concern until recently on this forum.
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    Last june I purchase a 2038R and was told it would be a 2017. They had the MMM on hand and he tagged it that day then come to find out I had a 8 month wait because of the radial tires. They had one on hand with out radials but it was the one they took to several county fairs. it had 8 hours showing but my main concern was all the people crawling on it. I decided to wait. well 6 months later mine came in early?? and it was a 2018. they put the deck on it and its in my garage. My feeling is that when I am gone and my wife is selling it it will be listed has a 2018 2038R with loader and mower. No one is going to crawl done and check the serial number on the mower. I think what matters is the year of the tractor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coaltrain View Post
    Agreed Jim.

    In all my years I have never seen model years of tractors causing any concern until recently on this forum.
    Ok... so the year-date obsession lately is not just my imagination.
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    I must have missed that thread.
    I have found that GTT is the most courteous forum I have ever read.
    I'm sorry that someone may have been obtuse with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFRet View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFRet View Post
    I forgot there are people on here that take great delight in being condescending to others. I removed the post to make them happy.
    I wish you wouldn't have removed it. It is a legitimate question. While such a standard black book doesn't readily exist for tractors, NADA & KBB consider the year of the item to be a key consideration. This can be said of cars, boats, ATV's, campers, etc. Additionally, bank lending rates are dependent upon the year of the proposed financed item. One year can make a difference of a half a point or more in rate or even be the difference between being "financable" or not.

    Additionally, if I recall your original post accurately, I totally agree with the thought of wanting something brand new to be brand new. If it isn't and it's been sitting on the lot for a year in the elements, then I'd like to know and be able to use that as a bargaining chip on price. At least I'd have the option then to determine how I want to proceed. The tractor I just purchased for myself was on the lot for awhile. They had to replace several trim pieces that were showing signs of discoloration or corrosion from just hanging out in the elements for all that time.

    A smart buyer considers resale value with every significant purchase he makes. Times change, needs change, wants change. One thing's for sure, nothing ever stays the same.

    Maybe I should just remove the year from all the tractors I sell since it ain't no thang!
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    I hope my input wasn't taken to be mean or obnoxious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drifterbike View Post
    I hope my input wasn't taken to be mean or obnoxious.
    Drifterbike, you are the last person I would say would be offensive. As others have said I think people for the most part and especially the regular posters on this forum have no interest in being rude, just helpful.

    As far as the year, I suppose it matters for the first 10 years but after that a 3020 is a 3020, a 70 a 70 or a 6130 a 6130.
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