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    Would you want one of these for your tractor?

    I find myself needing to transport heavy stuff to other parts of my property over rough terrain. A lot of the heavy stuff already has wheels on it, but they are not suitable for transport over rough ground. Think portable compressor, power washer, welder, generator, large rolling tool boxes, portable table saw, and the like.

    Imagine something that looks like a hand truck but instead of wheels it has a mating extension for a trailer hitch. And it has a very large base plate and convenient, padded back support for strapping things to it. The trailer hitch it will use has the ability to lift, such as the one on a Heavy Hitch on the 3-point hitch of a tractor. With a base plate like a hand truck, heavy stuff can be easily rolled onto it. In my view, this makes it much more useful for my purposes than fork lift tines or a carry-all. I don't want to have to lift stuff up initially in order to carry it. And then there's the getting it back down part as well.

    I put my thoughts on the attached drawing, dimensioned to meet most of my needs. I'm not an artist at all. I'd have liked to post an angled perspective view of this thing, but I'm not that talented. With a little imagination, I think you'll get the idea. Would these dimensions work for you? If you have a front loader, you may have no use for this at all. But I think a product like this would provide some of the solutions of a front loader at a small fraction of the price.

    Would you want one of these for your tractor? How would you modify the design to meet all of your needs?

    I also have a version of this product in my mind with a hydraulic or linear actuator lift mechanism. This would get the lift height to be sufficient to get heavy stuff in and out of a pickup bed. Does that interest you?
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    I think that most of us would not need such an attachment as we could just use forks on our FEL. I am still working on getting forks for mine, but it will happen and soon. It might work for those not having an FEL, but that seems to be a minority amongst those of us on this forum.

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    Not sure why you need to move all that electrically powered equipment around your property as opposed to bringing the things to be worked on to the equipment, but I think you should start saving up for a loader and a large cart or trailer.

    To power the power washer, compressor, saw, or welder you'll need the generator too, so you need to be able to carry several pieces of equipment at a time, not just one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keane View Post
    I find myself needing to transport heavy stuff to other parts of my property over rough terrain. A lot of the heavy stuff already has wheels on it, but they are not suitable for transport over rough ground. Think portable compressor, power washer, welder, generator, large rolling tool boxes, portable table saw, and the like.

    Imagine something that looks like a hand truck but instead of wheels it has a mating extension for a trailer hitch. And it has a very large base plate and convenient, padded back support for strapping things to it. The trailer hitch it will use has the ability to lift, such as the one on a Heavy Hitch on the 3-point hitch of a tractor. With a base plate like a hand truck, heavy stuff can be easily rolled onto it. In my view, this makes it much more useful for my purposes than fork lift tines or a carry-all. I don't want to have to lift stuff up initially in order to carry it. And then there's the getting it back down part as well.

    I put my thoughts on the attached drawing, dimensioned to meet most of my needs. I'm not an artist at all. I'd have liked to post an angled perspective view of this thing, but I'm not that talented. With a little imagination, I think you'll get the idea. Would these dimensions work for you? If you have a front loader, you may have no use for this at all. But I think a product like this would provide some of the solutions of a front loader at a small fraction of the price.

    Would you want one of these for your tractor? How would you modify the design to meet all of your needs?

    I also have a version of this product in my mind with a hydraulic or linear actuator lift mechanism. This would get the lift height to be sufficient to get heavy stuff in and out of a pickup bed. Does that interest you?
    I think as with most all products, wether tractor attachments or other, you maybe should build one for yourself.
    Build it, test it for all it's worth, and document the testing with pics and video.
    Then if all goes well and you get it refined, try and market it if that's what you aim to do..
    If anything you'll wind up with an attachment that works for you in your situation that you came up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keane View Post
    In my view, this makes it much more useful for my purposes than fork lift tines or a carry-all. I don't want to have to lift stuff up initially in order to carry it. And then there's the getting it back down part as well.
    I would think an attachment like this would also require a hydraulic top-link to control the load.

    I agree with the previous poster in that forks on the loader are probably more versitile and can typically lift higher. If you ever have anything delivered via freight service the ability to off-load from a semi-trailer truck is very useful.

    The problem of lifting items to carry them can be solved by simply using a pallet with a small loading ramp attached. They have been making loading platforms like this for years for use with industrial lift trucks.
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    I think you have a good idea but for myself, I use forks in place of my FEL that would serve the same purpose. But that's a good design and you have done a really good job of detailing your idea.
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    I really don't see much advantage of your unit over a typical Carry-All. In my case, I'd have to attach something to my iMatch hitch first to use the receiver hitch on your unit which just adds another step as well.

    Lifting things 3" to get them onto a Carry-All isn't that big of a deal but even if it was, it would be easier to just add a small ramp to the Carry-All.
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    I don't think I'd want a 2" draw bar holding a load at truck bed height. Most of them max out around 750# tongue weight and with a 2' lever (if your box is 4' wide) that drops to 325# before you add the cheater bar equivalent with your additional vertical extension. Balancing the load side to side would help some, but it's not always possible, plus you have a lot of mechanical stuff going on so the box itself is going to eat up some carrying capacity.

    I agree with the suggestion to either make a pit or a ramp - just about every commercial building made has one form or the other for loading/unloading semi's at their docks.

    Heck, I want a pair of big ramps so I can change oil on the vehicles without having to drive up the stupid little ones I've got.

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    I think it might be useful in certain situations. Changes I would make are:

    in addition to the receiver connection, I'd add a full cat 1 3PH. That way you could use it either way. Maybe make the receiver connection tube removable with a lynch pin.
    I'd make the back so it would be easy to attach boards with bolts, and space them for 2 x 6's, two sets of holes per board.

    It also wouldn't be a whole different to put a ramp on a standard carry-all.
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