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    Help with installing a PTO to tiller...

    Hi... while assembling my new tiller countryline/tarter 4' I think I pulled a muscle in my right hand. Everything hooked up using the ihitch with no problem but I am trying to connect the pto.


    I have the tiller end in but not sure if it is right as there is a nut and bolt on it and in the instructions it doesn't talk about tightening this an it is hand loose. Any suggestions ?


    The next thing was trying to hook up to the tractor and it seems I am off just a little so I cant align it to slide on. I think it might be due to I am having problems holding the pto and turning it as one hand is bad. Anyone have suggestions if I am doing it right or missed something?


    I know there are a lot of people on here with so much experience we newbees must really seem dumb. Never put a pto on before so its new to me and I am trying not to break something.

    Thanks for any advice...(please don't tell me to stick to walk behind mowers )

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    As far as putting the shaft on the tractor - put your PTO selector in the mid position. This way the rear spline will turn easily by hand. While lining up the shaft turn the shaft as you push and it should slip right on.

    Also be sure your shaft coupling is in the open position. If it is the round collar type push it back and turn it 1/4 turn and it will stay locked open. It will then shut automatically when it bottoms out on the shaft.

    If you have the push pin type you have to hold that pin down while sliding the shaft on.
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    First things first there are no dumb questions!

    Once you get the 3 point or imatch in your case connected. Shut the tractor down, as in turn it off and you will be able to turn the tractor side of the pro shaft with ease. This will allow for proper alignment of the splines.

    Do you have a slip clutch or a shear bolt for protection on your PtO shaft? A picture of the tiller end of the PTO would help everyone here in helping you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFRet View Post
    I have the tiller end in but not sure if it is right as there is a nut and bolt on it and in the instructions it doesn't talk about tightening this an it is hand loose. Any suggestions
    That one doesn't need to be tight. That bolt slips through a groove on the gearbox input shaft. Once in place it prevents the PTO shaft from pulling free from the gearbox. As long as the bolt is there it's doing it's job. If it didn't come with one already, I suggest replacing the nut with a locknut with the nylon inserts.

    The next thing was trying to hook up to the tractor and it seems I am off just a little so I cant align it to slide on. I think it might be due to I am having problems holding the pto and turning it as one hand is bad. Anyone have suggestions if I am doing it right or missed something?
    As coaltrain said, make sure your PTO selector is set to mid-PTO ONLY. That will allow your rear PTO shaft stub to rotate freely. Then you can nudge it from side to side to get the splines to line up. If you have the selector set to Rear PTO of Mid- and rear PTO, the rear PTO stub won't move at all.
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    Ok you got me. What is a PTO selector?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danthoman View Post
    Ok you got me. What is a PTO selector?
    Engaging the PTO—Operator on Seat


    1. Sit on operator seat.
    2. Lock the park brake.
    3. Move the 2-speed range lever to the N position.
    4. NOTE: The starter will not crank if the PTO/RIO switch knob is in any engaged/on position.
      Start the engine.
    5. Set engine speed to 1500 rpm or less.

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      A - PTO Control Lever
      B - Mid PTO Only
      C - Mid and Rear PTO
      D - Rear PTO Only
      E - 3200 RPM
      F - LCD
      Move the PTO control lever (A) to desired operating position.
      • Position (B) - Mid PTO only.
      • Position (C) - Mid and Rear PTO
      • Position (D) - Rear PTO only.
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    Thank you all for advice. I will try again in the morning

    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Engaging the PTO—Operator on Seat


    1. Sit on operator seat.
    2. Lock the park brake.
    3. Move the 2-speed range lever to the N position.
    4. NOTE: The starter will not crank if the PTO/RIO switch knob is in any engaged/on position.
      Start the engine.
    5. Set engine speed to 1500 rpm or less.

    6. LVAL38279-UN-21AUG12

      LVAL38431-UN-02NOV12
      A - PTO Control Lever
      B - Mid PTO Only
      C - Mid and Rear PTO
      D - Rear PTO Only
      E - 3200 RPM
      F - LCD
      Move the PTO control lever (A) to desired operating position.
      • Position (B) - Mid PTO only.
      • Position (C) - Mid and Rear PTO
      • Position (D) - Rear PTO only.

    This I know lol. But again thanks to everyone for the advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coaltrain View Post
    As far as putting the shaft on the tractor - put your PTO selector in the mid position.
    Which is not to say "put it in the middle position," which I did when I first learned of this trick. Putting it in "mid-PTO only" is the idea...
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    Flip up the PTO shield

    I hope I'm not telling you something that you think is obvious, but you said you were new to this.

    There is a 3-sided metal shield around the PTO spline on the back of the tractor. Grab this at the top and pull up. This shield is hinged so that you can flip it up and get it out of the way when you need to hook up to the rear spline. A lot of new folks don't realize this, and they really struggle getting the shaft hooked up. It's a lot easier if you have room to work. This is a safety shield, so please put it back down after you have completed the hookup.
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    Are you sure the PTO shaft isn't to long? You mentioned it was a "new" tiller, quite often the shafts have to be cut to size or serious damage can occur.
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