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    Rototiller?

    In the continuing saga of my new yard, I've decided perhaps I need a rototiller. I've done part of the yard with a walk-behind and I'm smart enough to know that I won't be doing that to the rest of the yard.

    This is a new construction house and while the larger trees and stumps were moved, there are LOTS of roots and limbs underground. I had the walk-behind tiller almost go over me a couple of times from hitting those roots.

    And that's the issue - hidden roots and probably rocks. So I'm looking at the 60" T5 Series Phoenix - built by Sicma - Rotary Tiller to use with my 2018 2032R.

    Does anyone have actual experience with this one? EA recommended it and I trust their recommendation, but they're also the ones selling it.

    Are there any better, perhaps less expensive, options out there?

    Thanks for any help or advice.
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    Depending on how bad your root situation is you may want to consider something with less moving parts to first rip them out like a subsoiler or moldboard plow? May need a larger tractor to actually get through them, I tried a sub soiler with my 2320 once and it was more than the tractor could pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoryB View Post
    In the continuing saga of my new yard, I've decided perhaps I need a rototiller. I've done part of the yard with a walk-behind and I'm smart enough to know that I won't be doing that to the rest of the yard.

    This is a new construction house and while the larger trees and stumps were moved, there are LOTS of roots and limbs underground. I had the walk-behind tiller almost go over me a couple of times from hitting those roots.

    And that's the issue - hidden roots and probably rocks. So I'm looking at the 60" T5 Series Phoenix - built by Sicma - Rotary Tiller to use with my 2018 2032R.

    Does anyone have actual experience with this one? EA recommended it and I trust their recommendation, but they're also the ones selling it.

    Are there any better, perhaps less expensive, options out there?

    Thanks for any help or advice.
    if u have hidden roots, rocks, etc, that new tiller is gonna be beat to snot working that dirt for the first time. heck i got 2 dents in my tiller from rocks in my garden, we used to plow it, and used a harrow, and we picked trailer loads of small rocks from it.
    if u could borrow someones one bottom plow and turn that dirt over-then maybe use a land scape rake on it? then after that use ur tiller on it. just my 2 cts-ok

    have u thought of getting someone in with a power rake to go thru it for u? never seen one in person-but from watching them on u-tube they seem to do a great job. good luck with ur new yard!
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    I have to agree with BigJim55, tillers and roots don't get along very well, I'm not exactly sure what to suggest you try but a tiller is probably not the right choice until the roots have been taken care of.
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    Small tree roots donít seem to be much of an issue for my KK 48Ē tiller. I donít recommend trying to till any root over an inch on purpose. But Iíve hit larger and didnít break anything, even ran a basketball size rock through it once. Put a large dent in the housing, but didnít break anything. The key to not breaking anything is to have a good working slip clutch.
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    I have a set of discs - round, no teeth - too. Should I run over the yard with those first? I've also got a cultivator. Would they help break up and dig up the roots?

    I know this is going to be a multi-pass project. I'm just trying to get knowledgeable advice before I buy something that won't work or that I will tear up quickly. I've already got the 'do something stupid' thing down pretty well.

    I don't know anyone with a power rake or if I can rent one locally.
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    if you have a farm store near you they are all closing out their rototillers. I received a flyer from both Tractor Supply and Rural King. They had 48" king Cutters starting at 998$
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    I cant say a good way to deal with the roots, but I can say that if you borrow someones single bottom plow in an attempt to remove said roots, you will never borrow anything from that person again. Plows are meant for dirt, not much else. The smaller ones, which is what you can pull, will have shear bolts to keep them safe from hitting hard stuff that doesnt move, like rocks and roots. Adjusted properly, you are also likely to damage the coulter.

    As to the tiller idea, do you know how big the roots are?
    My little 30 hydraulic tiller will run right through 1" roots like they arent even there. I cant believe a bigger tiller wouldnt at least do that.
    Since you already have the tractor, maybe just rent a tiller from Sunbelt or somewhere and then buy one later if you need one. My local Sunbelt rents a 60" Frontier.
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    I would definitely rent from sunbelt for virgin ground. I have the 42" hydraulic for my 345, and I tested our never- tilled ground with it, and it chewed it up - but with more wear and tear than I was willing to accept. 180 bucks at sunbelt to rent for a day, they gave me a JD 665, and it did a wonderful job (I also have the 2018 2032R). At the end of the day, you get to give it back, dents and all. And unless you plan on large tilling jobs annually, it doesn't really make sense to buy a tiller

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    How rough is the ground? You might be able to get adequate soil prep with the disc alone. Can't hurt to try. Won't dig up the roots, and won't beat up the tractor, or implement, or operator.
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