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    1025 Broom options for snow

    Snow will be here soon enough in my area and I’m looking to add a broom to the front of my 1025R. There’s a guy a few hours away I’ve dealt with before selling a John Deere 60” quick hitch HD broom, it’s practically new and is asking 2300$ CDN for it. I was near my local John Deere dealer and they’re asking $4300 for the same broom new. That said the used broom is the obvious option.

    My dealer then said he sees lots of guys coming in for parts and service because they’ve busted or broken something on their JD brooms. His solution is that he has a local manufacturer conterra industries who makes skid steer attachments design and “over build” a broom and hasn’t had a problem with them. My problem is that they’re nearly $5000.

    So with that. Has anyone had any issues with John Deere’s 60” broom? For 2300$ I could buy a whole lot of spare parts. As I do use it commercially for snow removal downtime is a killer! Input is much appreciated
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    Can't help you on which one to pick, but I assume you have the from hitch and pto shaft already? If not you have to be sure the parts will fit when buying used.
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    I do have quick hitch and angling kit as well as front pto shaft and all connections. Not sure if blower/ broom have separate shaft connectors or not.
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    I can't speak to the 60 Broom, but rather the 51 Broom that I had paired with a 455. I purchased it used, with about 70% of the bristle life remaining. It was pretty limited as too how much snow it would move. If the snow accumulation was much more than 1" and considering the distance I had to move it, anything more than that I would snap off sheer bolts (1/4" grade 5). Also, if I came into a bank of snow just a bit, I'd snap a sheer bolt. It would also "drop snow" behind it if I was moving any amount a distance.

    1" of snow I can do with my back pack leaf blower, so I really didn't utilize the broom for that. It worked well for cleaning packed snow, such as when people drive across a fresh snowfall. If you like to keep your drive whistle-clean down to the concrete/pavement, they will get you there.

    I sold it with one of the 455s and I have no intention to replace it. It is too much money for the little I utilize it, too much fuss to swap between the blower and broom, and storage space is always a premium.

    I'd go with what I now utilize: a snowblower and a back pack leaf blower and I try to get on a snowfall before some rude person drives over it.
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    cant talk about the 1025R but I put one on my 2038R and it works great. I have had it three months and used it to put gravel back in drive that was plowed in the grass, I used it to remove Thatch from my whole 4 acres and it throws it along way. on the 1025 make sure it uses the same angling kit. They aren't cheap but I am glad to have it. I will used it this fall for leaves and in spring to clean up the yard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dombougie View Post
    Snow will be here soon enough in my area and I’m looking to add a broom to the front of my 1025R. There’s a guy a few hours away I’ve dealt with before selling a John Deere 60” quick hitch HD broom, it’s practically new and is asking 2300$ CDN for it. I was near my local John Deere dealer and they’re asking $4300 for the same broom new. That said the used broom is the obvious option.

    My dealer then said he sees lots of guys coming in for parts and service because they’ve busted or broken something on their JD brooms. His solution is that he has a local manufacturer conterra industries who makes skid steer attachments design and “over build” a broom and hasn’t had a problem with them. My problem is that they’re nearly $5000.

    So with that. Has anyone had any issues with John Deere’s 60” broom? For 2300$ I could buy a whole lot of spare parts. As I do use it commercially for snow removal downtime is a killer! Input is much appreciated

    You sir should be thrown in jail for stealing the broom at that price!

    I have the 60" on my 1025, and it's a snow moving beast. Depending on the type of snow, you will experience varied results obviously. Wet heavy stuff, 1-2" max, more normal dry type and it will handle up to 4" the manual says 6" but that's not been my experience. I moved ALOT of snow last year and never once sheared a bolt.

    This spring i used it to dethach the lawn and it worked well, I'm going to do it again next spring with a little more aggressive setting.

    Since you have the hitch, the only additional PTO connection is a short shaft between the hitch and the broom. The one thing I was not prepared for was the need for rear weights on the tractor. It's not tippy by any means, but it certainly looses traction easily with the broom raised. From the manual:
    Required ballast: two wheel weights. Recommended ballast: rear weight bracket or weight box with ten suitcase weights (with these options wheel weights are not needed.)
    I didn't run with that much weight, but I did pull a small 6' blade behind me, which worked out very well on packed snow. The broom would get the fluff out of the way, the angled blade would move the rest to the side for the next pass, save lots of time.

    I'm really quite jealous of your find, I looked for over a year and could not locate a used one in about 500 miles so I bought new...and yes it hurt. But when I can fly around and move the snow outta the way, it stings less each year.
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    Ray wrote a great post about using a broom for snow: 47 vs 54" (front mounted) blower
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    Quote Originally Posted by dombougie View Post
    Snow will be here soon enough in my area and I’m looking to add a broom to the front of my 1025R. There’s a guy a few hours away I’ve dealt with before selling a John Deere 60” quick hitch HD broom, it’s practically new and is asking 2300$ CDN for it. I was near my local John Deere dealer and they’re asking $4300 for the same broom new. That said the used broom is the obvious option.

    My dealer then said he sees lots of guys coming in for parts and service because they’ve busted or broken something on their JD brooms. His solution is that he has a local manufacturer conterra industries who makes skid steer attachments design and “over build” a broom and hasn’t had a problem with them. My problem is that they’re nearly $5000.

    So with that. Has anyone had any issues with John Deere’s 60” broom? For 2300$ I could buy a whole lot of spare parts. As I do use it commercially for snow removal downtime is a killer! Input is much appreciated
    The 60" broom is the Heavy Duty version of the two brooms which Deere sells. With it's actual caster wheel support system which the smaller brooms don't have, it would be much more appropriate for regular commercial use. As others have pointed out, make sure it's very clear exactly what's included in the sale as some of the shafts and other drive pieces can add up very quickly.

    I am curious, are you are using the broom in commercial settings which have a "Zero Tolerance" snow requirement, like Hospitals and Many medical offices, etc. with people coming in and out who already have serious mobility complications? Places where the surface stays wet instead of allowing any accumulations with snow melt and other treatments? Otherwise, it would seem the broom is somewhat inefficient at regular snow removal duties where the snow amounts are often more than 4" to 6" and snow falls regularly enough you have to plan for the accumulation over the season.

    If you don't mind and would share more information, I am curious how you use the broom commercially, whether it's for sidewalks or small parking lots., driveways, etc.? Also, what's the typical annual snowfall totals in your area per season? We always think of Canada getting more snow, being north of the lower 48.

    I do a lot of snow plowing in our neighborhood with 17 driveways or so and while the broom gets the surface cleaned with a "minimal" snowfall (1" to 3" for our area) it struggles above that amount and also limits you to always sweeping it off to the side which will eventually create a bank which will be an impediment for the broom.

    Plus, with the effort necessary to swap back to the snow blade, I personally don't find enough of an advantage to use the broom for snow duties. The broom takes up more storage room than any other implement I own for the tractor. A rubber scraper edge on the plow blade produces the same clean surface and is much faster and can handle varying depths of snow, where the broom really struggles. That's why I am curious about using the broom as the primary means of snow removal and working on commercial accounts with it. I am looking forward to your reply.

    I would put the broom on a 1 series if I had a dedicated machine where I could leave the broom on it and I had another tractor which could have the plow blade and or snow thrower set up on it. Since many commercial operations have multiple pieces of equipment, I can see the broom being used in this fashion as an alternative instead of as a primary means of snow removal.
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    Thanks for the input guys. I currently maintain a dozen commercial sites lawn/ snow. Most are condominium buildings, a church and a business. As for safety, contract needs and my liability I want my sites as spotless as possibly. Currently I run 3 ramrod mini skid steer units with blades or hydraulic brooms, they’re awesome but slow.

    Problem was I didn’t have anything to handle the big storms and snow drifts. I looked at what the other guys around me were using and saw a lot of 700s, 1 and 2 series tractors. Picked up a 1025 with blade and blower and I was hooked. I also have 5 acres so it’s darn handy there to.

    With more thought I’m going to try broom out. Something like that will surely get its miles. More of my question was the true quality of their broom as my dealer didn’t seem like the build quality was well received.
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    Sully I’m no good at doing quotes. reading my reply I left out a few things. All parts are included in deal $2300. I’ve delt with seller before and he’s a solid guy.

    I mostly do sidewalks with the broom/ blade and blower set ups I have now. V plow on the trucks takes care of parking lots. As most of my contracts are all included I really don’t like using ice melt. It’s costly even by the pallet, damaging to concrete and vegetation. Best solution is to sweep it clear. I also maintain 3 separate seniors condominiums and they’re not great on snow and ice.

    Annual snowfall here is around 5’ in the Calgary area which I service.

    I don’t mind switching around attachments. I’ve done it enough it takes me a minute to go from blade to blower. Hoping the broom could help me move a little faster as well rather than slowing down over uneven concrete cracks and lifts. I also have. 25’ trailer I drag my equipment around on, plus shop and a 40’ shipping container storage isn’t much of an issue
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