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    Mmm or rfm for steep yard

    I have purchased a home with a very steep yard. The garden tractor will not go up or down it. Have been convinced the 2025r with mmm would be my best machine to cut it with. I now see that the 2032 with spacers is almost a foot wider. And I could put a finish mower on back for a lot less than the mmm. Has anyone used a finish mower on steep terrain. I know on an ag Tractor and bush hog it will just lift up the 3pt arms when you start up a steep incline. I assume the finish mower would do the same. Any advice or experience or opinions would be appreciated. Possibly even the finish mower on the 2025r. I donít have many obstacles to mow around. Just really steep smooth Blue Ridge Mountains.


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    This is just sort of a guess but I think I would feel more comfortable with the MMM in that situation.
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    The 2032 feels like a much larger machine. And is quite a bit heavier. My concern is it would be too much for the yard. However the much wider stance keeps pulling me. I have discussed the 2 inch spacers for the 2025r on here before. Thatís an option also. Whatís actual width of a new 2025r with r4 tires? About 48?


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    Also on the hills I can go straight up and down. Donít have to side hill but very little.


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    Is your hill this steep?

    This might give you an idea of what a machine can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wvdeere View Post
    The 2032 feels like a much larger machine. And is quite a bit heavier. My concern is it would be too much for the yard. However the much wider stance keeps pulling me. I have discussed the 2 inch spacers for the 2025r on here before. Thatís an option also. Whatís actual width of a new 2025r with r4 tires? About 48?


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    When I measured mine outside of rear tire to rear tire with straight edge mine was 49", 52" now with 1.5" wheel spacers. But as I think I mentioned to you once before I easily could have gone with 2" and possibly 2.5" with a 60d MMM. Rethinking the original question the horse pastures that I mow with the rotary cutter are very very steep, weights on the front and MFWD engaged I have never had an issue with traction.
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    How steep is steep? I have 3 areas that are 30 degrees that I mow sideways and up and down. Anything more than that and I'd seriously question mowing it at all. I'd either landscape the slope to make it mower friendly or put ground cover on it so I didn't have to mow it. Honestly, if you have any garden tractor series from a 3xx on up and it is too steep for them, a 2xxx or 3xxx series won't gain you much except a false sense of security that could cost someone their life. Mowing slopes requires adequate traction and torque. A heavier machine will increase traction to a degree and will likely have more torque for pulling those slopes but if you are using turf tires on any machine with otherwise acceptable torque, it will not have the traction necessary to climb. You have to get the available power to the ground and make it stick. We used to have a saying when we dragraced hotrods. If your tires are spinning, you are losing. A 500 cube big block with 650HP set up correctly with the wrong tires has no chance of winning.
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    Spend the money on landscaping the hill. You can buy lots of plants for the cost of the mower deck. Ground cover, plant a bunch of trees to convert back to woods, wildflower meadow or something similar. Much nicer to look at than grass, and less chance of rolling your tractor and breaking it or yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fozsey View Post
    How steep is steep? I have 3 areas that are 30 degrees that I mow sideways and up and down. Anything more than that and I'd seriously question mowing it at all. I'd either landscape the slope to make it mower friendly or put ground cover on it so I didn't have to mow it. Honestly, if you have any garden tractor series from a 3xx on up and it is too steep for them, a 2xxx or 3xxx series won't gain you much except a false sense of security that could cost someone their life. Mowing slopes requires adequate traction and torque. A heavier machine will increase traction to a degree and will likely have more torque for pulling those slopes but if you are using turf tires on any machine with otherwise acceptable torque, it will not have the traction necessary to climb. You have to get the available power to the ground and make it stick. We used to have a saying when we dragraced hotrods. If your tires are spinning, you are losing. A 500 cube big block with 650HP set up correctly with the wrong tires has no chance of winning.
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    Donít know the slope or percentage but one side just gets steeper until it canít be mowed. Itís steep but is flat at bottom and at top.



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    Donít know the slope or percentage but one side just gets steeper until it canít be mowed. Itís steep but is flat at bottom and at top.



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    if u got 4 wheel drive then u should be able to mow it, as long as u got a flat spot at bottom and top to turn around at.

    my aunt's place where i stayed at has a steep hill, i mow it with my 2520 in 4 wheel drive with my frontier gm1072-which is a RFM--i hang 3 42 lb weights on the front of it. it is steep too-and at the top, i hate to turn where i do, once i get turned it's all downhill to about 20 feet from the bottom i then have to turn to go back up but a couple yrs ago, the state came thru-and cut the bank back in some, now i can just go right down to the blacktop and turn around. now that made it nicer there-but up the road a bit-it made that part steeper-so i have to play rosey round the posies one spot i just point it straight and slide down over it. not uch grass grows there anyways-just them thumping locust trees. but if u don't keep them cut back-every couple yrs-well u know what happens. they get bigger. i need to take a pic of that hill. it still gives me the willey's for the first mow of the summer.
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