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    another suggestion for KennyD or one of the other vendors here......

    Ok, so since my last suggestion, which I thought I had a brainstorm about (but had been done already, yeesh) I have searched high and low and could not see this being offered or made yet.

    After watching this video by Tim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=061lSgyPUaU as I was watching him take the tiller off the trailer, and seeing him using the chains on Ken's hooks, the thing that was glaring out at me was his FEL receiver hitch, which was not being used.

    Could someone make a simple attachment that could use the receiver hitch with a top link hook on it, so all he would have had to do was tilt down, drive in and scoop up the tiller, without the need for chains?

    Not sure if Im describing it the right way but hopefully someone with better terminology could explain it better if Im doing it wrong.

    Also, Im all ready for the 'its been done already" incoming-fire so, lay it on me.

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    That's a good idea. The only issue I can think of is the weight. When you figure that even a 48" tiller can weigh close to 500 lbs. That is a tremendous amount of weight to apply to the middle of the bucket top edge. The leverage would be even more because the hook would stick out a bit. Also, most implements are designed to be lifted by the bottom pins and not the top link connection. To make matters worse, if lifted by the top link point the unbalanced implement would probably swing inward or even hang off to the side.

    Kenny does sell a Ball Dog adapter that allows the receiver to be used for attaching chains, hooks and other useful things. I have one and it often comes in handy. It also fits over a 2" hitch ball and locks in place with a pin allowing you to attach chain hooks and such to a trailer ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    That's a good idea. The only issue I can think of is the weight. When you figure that even a 48" tiller can weigh close to 500 lbs. That is a tremendous amount of weight to apply to the middle of the bucket top edge. The leverage would be even more because the hook would stick out a bit. Also, most implements are designed to be lifted by the bottom pins and not the top link connection. To make matters worse, if lifted by the top link point the unbalanced implement would probably swing inward or even hang off to the side.

    Kenny does sell a Ball Dog adapter that allows the receiver to be used for attaching chains, hooks and other useful things. I have one and it often comes in handy. It also fits over a 2" hitch ball and locks in place with a pin allowing you to attach chain hooks and such to a trailer ball.
    What if the hook was at the same angle as the other hooks on the bucket?
    Hard to describe, but basically it would be at such and angle that the bucket would be tilted down almost all the way to even attempt to hook the tiller or other implement.
    With the bucket level, the hook would be pointing to the rear of the tractor.
    In that orientation, the load would be pulling straight down. That should be ok for the bucket, but any "non-careful" movements could cause some damage with heavier stuff.
    Kennys reinforcing plate should help a bit with this too.

    I agree too about the lifting, but I believe that the reason for this is that while in use, there are more stresses on the lower portion.
    There is also quite a bit of stress on the upper mount too, to keep implements level, like tillers when they are bouncing about.
    I dont think lifting the implement itself in that way would hurt much of anything, but that would need to be a piece by piece decision the owner would have to make.
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    Not exactly what you are asking, I think, but something like this seems like might it work better and accomplish the general idea - Artillian Tractor Attachments - Light-Weight Heavy-Duty Attachments for Subcompact & Compact Tractors and search for 3Pt quick hitch adapter.
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    maybe he could just make a quick hitch top hook thing. You put this hook into the receiver, tip the bucket all the way down, hook the pin and rotate the bucket back.



    The advantage is that the lower part of the implement is resting on the bucket edge, so it cant swing. depending on the geometry of the bucket and implement, the lower lift pin frame could even rest on the bucket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnH123 View Post
    maybe he could just make a quick hitch top hook thing. You put this hook into the receiver, tip the bucket all the way down, hook the pin and rotate the bucket back.



    The advantage is that the lower part of the implement is resting on the bucket edge, so it cant swing. depending on the geometry of the bucket and implement, the lower lift pin frame could even rest on the bucket.
    That's what I was thinking John as I read the first post.

    I know hooks like this are readily available, it might work:

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    It’s a good idea but seeing and lining up the hook would be an issue. Then the hazard of having someone in a position to be able to see yet be out of the way. Of course after the fight between operator and watcher/guider there would be the “You tried to kill me on purpose, didn’t you”
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    That's just strange, everyone else is trying to find a better to lift that tiller out of the trailer and what I took away from it was that he picked that 500# without rear ballast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJR832 View Post
    ...what I took away from it was that he picked that 500# without rear ballast.
    Definitely not a trick to be performed by amateurs like me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJR832 View Post
    That's just strange, everyone else is trying to find a better to lift that tiller out of the trailer and what I took away from it was that he picked that 500# without rear ballast.
    Not entirely without ballast, he's got wheel weights on.
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