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    Trying to understand JD Backhoes

    I am trying to figure out the current JD backhoe lineup and which tractors they are compatible with. I believe that in 2015 there are the following combinations:

    1025r - 260a backhoe
    2025r - 270a
    2032r - 46

    If this information is correct then my question is about the compatibility and functionality of these combinations. I have read that the 2032 - 46 combination is not easily connected if you have a mid mount mower. I have read that the 1025 - 260 work well together even with a mmm. I can't find much on the 2025 - 270 combination. Can someone give me the low down on these JD tractor / backhoe combinations. Thank you.

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    260 Backhoe For 2305, 1023E, 1025R, and 1026R OOS Tractors.

    Tractors Must be Equipped with a Front Loader and a Power Beyond Hydraulic kit LVB25956 (except 2305). Tire chains are not compatible with backhoe.

    Only 17 digit Serial No. 260 backhoes (with updated mainframe) are compatible with 1023E, 1025R, and 1026R.



    270A Backhoe For 2025R and 2320 OOS Tractors.

    Tractors Must be Equipped with a Front Loader and Power Beyond Kit. Mechanical mower lift system will not work with backhoe mounted.



    46 Backhoe For 2032R, 2520, 2720, 4100, 4110, and 4115 OOS Tractors.

    The 46 Backhoe is not Compatible with a Mid-Mount Mower Deck, See Sales Manual.

    Tractors Must be Equipped with a 200X/200CX Front Loader and Power Beyond Kit. With Full Axle Oscillation and Sharp Turning Angle, Tires have some Interference with 200X/200CX Loader Tubes when 46 Backhoe is Installed on 4115 Tractors. This Condition is Worse with R3 Tires than R4's. 4100, 4110, 4115 Tractors Require Folding ROPS and Tall ROPS Upper Hoop Kit (LVB25573).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    260 Backhoe For 2305, 1023E, 1025R, and 1026R OOS Tractors.

    Tractors Must be Equipped with a Front Loader and a Power Beyond Hydraulic kit LVB25956 (except 2305). Tire chains are not compatible with backhoe.

    Only 17 digit Serial No. 260 backhoes (with updated mainframe) are compatible with 1023E, 1025R, and 1026R.



    270A Backhoe For 2025R and 2320 OOS Tractors.

    Tractors Must be Equipped with a Front Loader and Power Beyond Kit. Mechanical mower lift system will not work with backhoe mounted.



    46 Backhoe For 2032R, 2520, 2720, 4100, 4110, and 4115 OOS Tractors.

    The 46 Backhoe is not Compatible with a Mid-Mount Mower Deck, See Sales Manual.

    Tractors Must be Equipped with a 200X/200CX Front Loader and Power Beyond Kit. With Full Axle Oscillation and Sharp Turning Angle, Tires have some Interference with 200X/200CX Loader Tubes when 46 Backhoe is Installed on 4115 Tractors. This Condition is Worse with R3 Tires than R4's. 4100, 4110, 4115 Tractors Require Folding ROPS and Tall ROPS Upper Hoop Kit (LVB25573).
    I have JD tire chains on my 1025R FILB with no issues whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue87fj60 View Post
    I have JD tire chains on my 1025R FILB with no issues whatsoever.
    I think there are a LOT of 1025r owner's that have chains with their BH. Not sure if the ability to use them is a result of the change in frames. I dunno. All of the above was copied straight from the JD WWW site.
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    No problem with mine

    I bought my 1025r in May of 2014. In October of 2014 I had my dealer install a 260 backhoe with power beyond and sub frame. I use my chains with this setup for snow removal. No problem. Not a lot of room between the things that move and those that are solid. I do keep my chains tight and do use the 5 spring outside tensioners. Could this along with subframe position on the front casting mounts be the difference? Just enought of a distance when added together to give the space needed.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowdog View Post
    I am trying to figure out the current JD backhoe lineup and which tractors they are compatible with. I believe that in 2015 there are the following combinations:

    1025r - 260a backhoe
    2025r - 270a
    2032r - 46

    If this information is correct then my question is about the compatibility and functionality of these combinations. I have read that the 2032 - 46 combination is not easily connected if you have a mid mount mower. I have read that the 1025 - 260 work well together even with a mmm. I can't find much on the 2025 - 270 combination. Can someone give me the low down on these JD tractor / backhoe combinations. Thank you.
    That is correct. You will need to remove the MMM to attach the BH, and vice versa.

    I have been able to do the swap in about 10 to 20 minutes. Sometimes trying to get the 46BH on goes easy and sometimes there are cuss words and what feels like getting on and off the tractor one million times. I have an idea for a BH cart I'm going to try out in the spring that should reduce the cussing and getting on and off the tractor to much less. Others seem to have the same, more or less issues. YMMV.

    There was a thread where I took some pictures of the process, but on phone right now. Will try to remember to link it here later.
    JD 2014 2032R w/ H130 FEL, 46BH, 62D MMM, Big Tool Rack, EA 60" Box Blade

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeb View Post
    That is correct. You will need to remove the MMM to attach the BH, and vice versa.

    I have been able to do the swap in about 10 to 20 minutes. Sometimes trying to get the 46BH on goes easy and sometimes there are cuss words and what feels like getting on and off the tractor one million times. I have an idea for a BH cart I'm going to try out in the spring that should reduce the cussing and getting on and off the tractor to much less. Others seem to have the same, more or less issues. YMMV.

    There was a thread where I took some pictures of the process, but on phone right now. Will try to remember to link it here later.
    It's much easier to swap between the 46 BH and Mid-mount mower on the 2520/2720/2032R if you're equipped with the mower deck mechanical lift. Hydraulic independent lift is another story entirely.
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    I have a 2025R, so I am looking at the 270A. Mutton's sells the:
    260 - $5400
    270 - $7400
    46 - $6700
    I am wondering why the 270a is so much more than the 260 & 46. I could rent a BH many times for $7400.00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowdog View Post
    I have a 2025R, so I am looking at the 270A. Mutton's sells the:
    260 - $5400
    270 - $7400
    46 - $6700
    I am wondering why the 270a is so much more than the 260 & 46. I could rent a BH many times for $7400.00.
    Definitely something to consider. Remember, this is one of those "Wants" VS. "Needs" situations. If you have a limited amount of BH work to get done you should probably rent a machine or hire the job out. If you can envision having a use for the backhoe over a number of years they're really handy. Some folks will purchase a machine, use it to complete a project and then resell for break-even or sometimes even a slight profit.

    Before I'd spend $7,400 for the 270A I think I'd have to give it a lot of thought. I have a 485 on my 3320 that I think cost me around $8500, maybe a little more and it's twice the BH that my 46 was. I picked up the 46 as new, unused @ $4000. Used it for a while and then resold it for a $1,000 profit. But I was spoiled coming from a #10 BH on a 1070. The 485 is closer to what I wanted and was used to operating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowdog View Post
    I have a 2025R, so I am looking at the 270A. Mutton's sells the:
    260 - $5400
    270 - $7400
    46 - $6700
    I am wondering why the 270a is so much more than the 260 & 46. I could rent a BH many times for $7400.00.
    I seem to remember another thread on BH's and the consensus being that while 270's were listed and priced that they were non order-able. You had to get a 46 or the 260. I may be completely off base, as I said just what I was remembering while reading this thread.

    FWIW, the 46 is a nice match for my 2032r, will it not fit on the 2025r? Or is the 270 a beefier hoe hence your choice?

    I thought the same when shopping for the tractor and attachments new. When I ended up with a used package though with the 46, I was excited. I have constantly found new uses and projects for the hoe... I can't imagine not having one available 24/7/365 as I have now...renting would be such a PIA.
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