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    Grapple or Backhoe Thumb

    I plan on adding a backhoe to my tractor. I'm trying to decide between getting a grapple or just use a backhoe thumb for grabbing and lifting logs. Getting a grapple is a major expense (about 5k with hoses and hydraulics) whereas a thumb for the backhoe can accomplish some of the things a grapple can but on a smaller scale. Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts or opinions on this subject.
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    A lot of that is going to depend on your intended use. I think they each have strengths and weaknesses. A thumb might be fine for the bigger stuff but if you are dealing with a lot of brush I would want a grapple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmissed View Post
    I plan on adding a backhoe to my tractor. I'm trying to decide between getting a grapple or just use a backhoe thumb for grabbing and lifting logs. Getting a grapple is a major expense (about 5k with hoses and hydraulics) whereas a thumb for the backhoe can accomplish some of the things a grapple can but on a smaller scale. Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts or opinions on this subject.
    If I had your tractor (size wise, 3033r) and was planning to purchase a BH for it I would get the thumb, end of story, the grapple would not even be in the picture.
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    It would depend on how you were going to utilize it. A backhoe with a thumb will allow you pick logs up, but they can be a bit unyielding in how they are grasped as well as how they are placed---espcially if you're trying to load them in a truck/trailer or pile them neatly. A grapple will offer more control.
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    If you will be doing a lot of tree work and stump digging you will want both. That said you can get by without a grapple but a grapple will make life easier.

    I have a full size backhoe loader I put a manual thumb on. It has been invaluable but picking stuff up and raising the stabilizers is tricky. Moving stuff any distance is better done with the loader end.

    Don't know how Canadian currency compares but no way should a grapple and hydraulics cost 5 grand us. You can do a diverter set up for under $500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sennister View Post
    A lot of that is going to depend on your intended use. I think they each have strengths and weaknesses. A thumb might be fine for the bigger stuff but if you are dealing with a lot of brush I would want a grapple.
    Wouldn't be dealing with a lot of brush. Mainly to:

    1. dig out and remove stumps
    2. lift/remove logs from log pile or from bush
    3. a little brush work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Machinist View Post
    If you will be doing a lot of tree work and stump digging you will want both. That said you can get by without a grapple but a grapple will make life easier.

    I have a full size backhoe loader I put a manual thumb on. It has been invaluable but picking stuff up and raising the stabilizers is tricky. Moving stuff any distance is better done with the loader end.

    Don't know how Canadian currency compares but no way should a grapple and hydraulics cost 5 grand us. You can do a diverter set up for under $500.
    CDN$, grapple is about $3000 for HLA light duty grapple, BLV10882 Dual Outlet Rear Selective Control is about $1700, plus freight, install, setup etc. Total is well over $5k including 13% taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmissed View Post
    CDN$, grapple is about $3000 for HLA light duty grapple, BLV10882 Dual Outlet Rear Selective Control is about $1700, plus freight, install, setup etc. Total is well over $5k including 13% taxes.
    Consider Everything Attachments Wicked 55 or Wicked 60. Excellent Grapple, very strong and capable, light weight compared to others on the market. Wicked 55 is around 200lbs and around $1800US. Artillian diverter is about $700US. Total $2500US or $3350Can.
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    It sounds like you could get away with a backhoe thumb and maybe some pallet forks.

    I wouldn't want to transport much with the backhoe thumb and not for much of a distance. For logs you can lift them, cut them, stack them and then fork them.

    Another thing to keep in mind you have to position the tractor then move to the backhoe to work it and you only have so much range to use the backhoe before you have to re-position it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransx77 View Post
    Consider Everything Attachments Wicked 55 or Wicked 60. Excellent Grapple, very strong and capable, light weight compared to others on the market. Wicked 55 is around 200lbs and around $1800US. Artillian diverter is about $700US. Total $2500US or $3350Can.
    You also need to factor in shipping costs which can be very expensive, duties, import fees and of course taxes.
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