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    1025r and 647 tiller pto shaft recommendations

    Hello everyone. I am in a pickle. I bought a 647 tiller in the crate at an estate sale late last fall. ($1,600 = stole it). However, he was planning to use it on a X700 series garden tractor. Hence the pto shaft is too short for my 1025R. I didn't think of this due to my excitement so shame on me. I'm still ahead but spring is getting later and I haven't tilled anything due to rain and then discovering my dilemma.

    What pto shafts are out there which will work? It needs a pto clutch on it. I am looking for makes, model #'s, and vendors. Agrisupply has a few that are affordable but I do not want to order unless I am assured I am ordering the right one. I know I can measure but I am asking on here from those of you who have already been down the path just to be sure.

    I would greatly appreciate some feedback from the members. Thank you in advance. I really need to get that garden tilled and planted. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53brownie53 View Post
    Hello everyone. I am in a pickle. I bought a 647 tiller in the crate at an estate sale late last fall. ($1,600 = stole it). However, he was planning to use it on a X700 series garden tractor. Hence the pto shaft is too short for my 1025R. I didn't think of this due to my excitement so shame on me. I'm still ahead but spring is getting later and I haven't tilled anything due to rain and then discovering my dilemma.

    What pto shafts are out there which will work? It needs a pto clutch on it. I am looking for makes, model #'s, and vendors. Agrisupply has a few that are affordable but I do not want to order unless I am assured I am ordering the right one. I know I can measure but I am asking on here from those of you who have already been down the path just to be sure.

    I would greatly appreciate some feedback from the members. Thank you in advance. I really need to get that garden tilled and planted. Thanks in advance.
    It the machine were mine, I would contact the Deere parts department and find out which PTO shaft they have specified to work with your machine and the tiller. If the PTO shaft for the x7xx machine is new and unused, you might be able to trade it towards the shaft which is right for your machine. If anyone is going to likely have a customer for the x7xx PTO shaft, its the dealership.

    As you said, you could measure it as well. Personally, with the Frontier Tiller and the 1025R tractor, I would just step up to the plate and make sure to get the right PTO shaft which is specifically designed for your machines. It takes some of the "deal" off the estate sale purchase, but you want to make sure the shaft is PERFECT for your machine and that the PTO shaft slip clutch is also proper for the horsepower of your machine.

    While the rear PTO shaft on your tractor is pretty stout, too long a PTO driveshaft can do some very serious damage to the tractor's PTO drive system. Also, a PTO slip clutch which doesn't provide the relief your machine would need should you encounter an obstruction can cause some damage.

    Yes, you might pay a little more at the dealer for the PTO shaft, but you will get the proper shaft designed for the machine and implement and you might be able to also find a home for the PTO shaft which came with the tiller. That's what I would do.............
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    I would buy the pto shaft, Agri-supply is a good source. There are some things to keep in mind, hookup to the tiller as if you are going to till and measure how long of a shaft you'll need. THis would include a quick hitch, you'll gain almost 4" in length needed with a quick hitch.
    It is very simple to cut a pto shaft to the correct length.
    How to Measure and Cut a Tractor PTO Shaft - YouTube

    Also, look at the shaft coming out of the gearbox of the tiller, some are splined and some are smooth. Make sure you get the correct one for your tiller, the tractor is obviously splined. You will want a slip clutch, you can adjust that to meet your needs, IMO these small tractors don't really have enough gusto to snap a shear bolt.
    But, as I said, if anything you'll want a pto shaft that is a little long, very simple to measure and cut it the proper length.
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    Have you considered a PTO shaft extender? You might get very lucky with this inexpensive fix.

    A quick Google search will bring up many options but here's one to get you started: https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...3-80476a87f809
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superglidesport View Post
    Have you considered a PTO shaft extender? You might get very lucky with this inexpensive fix.

    A quick Google search will bring up many options but here's one to get you started: https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...3-80476a87f809
    That's a good option, kudos SGS.

    Now, why didn't I think of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 53brownie53 View Post
    Hello everyone. I am in a pickle. I bought a 647 tiller in the crate at an estate sale late last fall. ($1,600 = stole it). However, he was planning to use it on a X700 series garden tractor. Hence the pto shaft is too short for my 1025R. I didn't think of this due to my excitement so shame on me. I'm still ahead but spring is getting later and I haven't tilled anything due to rain and then discovering my dilemma.

    What pto shafts are out there which will work? It needs a pto clutch on it. I am looking for makes, model #'s, and vendors. Agrisupply has a few that are affordable but I do not want to order unless I am assured I am ordering the right one. I know I can measure but I am asking on here from those of you who have already been down the path just to be sure.

    I would greatly appreciate some feedback from the members. Thank you in advance. I really need to get that garden tilled and planted. Thanks in advance.
    Do you have a quick hitch on your 1025 now? If so, you may be able to get by with the existing PTO shaft if you remove it and hook the tiller up directly to the 3pt. As mentioned above, a QH will increase the needed shaft length and, thus, if you remove it the shaft can be shorter. Even if this isn't what you want to have for a setup long term it may allow you to get the garden tilled ASAP while you figure out the right replacement shaft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53brownie53 View Post
    Hello everyone. I am in a pickle. I bought a 647 tiller in the crate at an estate sale late last fall. ($1,600 = stole it). However, he was planning to use it on a X700 series garden tractor. Hence the pto shaft is too short for my 1025R. I didn't think of this due to my excitement so shame on me. I'm still ahead but spring is getting later and I haven't tilled anything due to rain and then discovering my dilemma.

    What pto shafts are out there which will work? It needs a pto clutch on it. I am looking for makes, model #'s, and vendors. Agrisupply has a few that are affordable but I do not want to order unless I am assured I am ordering the right one. I know I can measure but I am asking on here from those of you who have already been down the path just to be sure.

    I would greatly appreciate some feedback from the members. Thank you in advance. I really need to get that garden tilled and planted. Thanks in advance.
    I personally would follow Sully s suggestion. Bet the even have the correct one in stock if you have a good dealer.

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    I read another thread about the extender but I was hesitant. I will try the extender given the positive experiences in the reviews I have read. The JD pto shaft is nearly $1,100. I can't return the pto shaft due to the fact it has been used and got a little banged up when the shaft came apart during use.

    Usually I would get the part designed specifically for the situation but the cost is crazy. I can buy an inferior tiller for the cost of the jd shaft.

    I appreciate all of the suggestions. I will update you gentlemen after I have used the extender. Hopefully it works just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superglidesport View Post
    Have you considered a PTO shaft extender? You might get very lucky with this inexpensive fix.

    A quick Google search will bring up many options but here's one to get you started: https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...3-80476a87f809
    That's for the oops that cut their pto's too short.
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    PTO shaft for 647? I'll measure mine tomorrow and give you dimensions and Agri-fab info so you can save some money. My shaft came with the tiller and clutch from JD. It's the same shaft Agri-fab sells. I've purchased clutch discs from Agri-fab. JD wants to sell the whole clutch! That's just plain nuts!!
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