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    1025R Front Weight Question

    I recently had my dealer install a 260B backhoe on my 2018 1025R, and have found that with the backhoe attached, the front end of the tractor is light and the front wheels tend to slip sideways if I try to make more than a moderate turn on loose dirt or crushed stone. (In both 4WD and 2WD). Carrying several solid concrete blocks (about 200 pounds) in the bucket eliminates the problem, but of course the bucket can't be used unless the blocks are removed.

    It would seem that hanging several iron weights on the front of the tractor frame would be a better solution, and I'm looking for the best way to accomplish that.

    I have a 47" front snowblower for the 1025R and the blower's frame mount, which remains bolted to the tractor's frame, has a lip across the top that the blower's bearing carrier bracket hangs on.

    Does anyone know if someone makes a weight bracket that hangs on the snowblower mount that will carry standard JD weights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by winni-laker104 View Post
    I recently had my dealer install a 260B backhoe on my 2018 1025R, and have found that with the backhoe attached, the front end of the tractor is light and the front wheels tend to slip sideways if I try to make more than a moderate turn on loose dirt or crushed stone. (In both 4WD and 2WD). Carrying several solid concrete blocks (about 200 pounds) in the bucket eliminates the problem, but of course the bucket can't be used unless the blocks are removed.

    It would seem that hanging several iron weights on the front of the tractor frame would be a better solution, and I'm looking for the best way to accomplish that.

    I have a 47" front snowblower for the 1025R and the blower's frame mount, which remains bolted to the tractor's frame, has a lip across the top that the blower's bearing carrier bracket hangs on.

    Does anyone know if someone makes a weight bracket that hangs on the snowblower mount that will carry standard JD weights?
    You can also look into filling the front tires with liquid ballast.
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    That is interesting, I have not had that problem...Is this with the BH stowed and the carrier pins installed? The Loader and BH should be well matched for weight distribution...I also have not loaded any of my tires and rove around on a relatively steep property.

    Does it do it in high and low? I never use high gear ..Maybe I just drive much slower...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chex313 View Post
    That is interesting, I have not had that problem...Is this with the BH stowed and the carrier pins installed? The Loader and BH should be well matched for weight distribution...I also have not loaded any of my tires and rove around on a relatively steep property.

    Does it do it in high and low? I never use high gear ..Maybe I just drive much slower...
    I think you probably have the 260 backhoe and mine is the 260B. I don't know if the 260B may have more weight rearward, but yes I do keep the backhoe stowed with both carrier pins in place when not using it. I do, however, have the BXpanded 260B thumb installed, which adds more weight rearward. I turn slowly in low gear.

    I have tried swinging the stowed backhoe all the way to the right and to the left, but it doesn't make a difference. My rear tires are loaded, my front tires are not.

    My JD dealer says this is a "normal" situation with the 2018 1025Rs with the 260B backhoe, and that some front weights will resolve it. I'm hoping someone makes a front weight carrier that just hangs on the snowblower mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chex313 View Post

    Does it do it in high and low? I never use high gear ..Maybe I just drive much slower...
    It is also possible that your brake is out of adjustment and the diff lock is engaged.
    I don't have the same tractor but I've had 850 lbs of rear ballast on my 2025 with an empty bale spear and had no troubles like this. Going up hills will transfer weight to the rear causing a light front end, but other than that it shouldn't.
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    I think you probably either have the tractor in 4WD or the diff. lock is stuck engaged as PJR832 mentioned.

    These tractors are designed to have the FEL and BH attached to the tractor at the same time. With both attached, the C of G of the tractor is very centered so you problem is not, not having enough front weight, it is something else like mentioned earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_PA View Post
    I think you probably either have the tractor in 4WD or the diff. lock is stuck engaged as PJR832 mentioned.

    These tractors are designed to have the FEL and BH attached to the tractor at the same time. With both attached, the C of G of the tractor is very centered so you problem is not, not having enough front weight, it is something else like mentioned earlier.
    The tractor just had its 50 hour service and the brakes were adjusted and are fine. The tractor rolls freely on a slight slope when the brake pedal is not pressed. I have tried both 4WD and 2WD while turning and it makes no difference. Also, I thought of the possibility of the rear diff. lock being stuck, but that's not it either. When loading the bucket from a pile of crushed stone in 2WD, I can make one of the rear wheels spin by driving into the pile. Also, when I put about 200 pounds of weight in the FEL bucket the tractor turns on a dime.

    What I forgot to mention originally is that when I remove the backhoe and re-install the 3-pt hitch & ballast box, the tractor performs fine just like it did before the backhoe was installed.
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    Interesting. I have a 2018 with the 260b backhoe. I've never noticed any lightness or tight turning issues.
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    Front Weight Bracket

    I very much appreciate the suggestions about what might be causing the front wheel slippage when turning my 1025R on a loose dirt or crushed stone surface with the 260B backhoe attached, but I'd like to add some weights to the front of the tractor to resolve the situation and would like to hear from anyone who knows if there's a company out there that makes a weight bracket that hangs on the snowblower frame mount that will carry standard JD weights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by winni-laker104 View Post
    ....anyone who knows if there's a company out there that makes a weight bracket that hangs on the snowblower frame mount that will carry standard JD weights?
    Heavy hitch makes a bracket for the front that slips in the inner brackets that the quick hitch adaptor bracket is normally slipped into. You don't use the JD quick hitch, just the inner brackets. More versatile than the JD front weight bracket. The JD bracket is bolted on, and you'd have to remove the long, skinny bracket that is bolted on the front for the quick hitch. The HH just slips in, and is retained with the long pin that the quick hitch uses.

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