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    Anyone have an MTL grapple? Looking at purchasing one.

    I am looking at buying a grapple and leaning toward going with an MTL grapple.
    Plan to use it on my cab 3s or a future 2038R that we have in the works .

    Either the RK5 $1269.00 Free shipping
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    this X series 72" $1799.00 Free shipping
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    Anyone have any first hand owner experience with MTL products.
    Are they good quality, the adds say made in the USA. They look pretty stout in the pictures.
    I would love to here from someone that has one.

    Thank you
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    2017 3039R with Cab, and 320 loader
    2019 X758 with 54" deck and mulch kit
    2019 3033R with Cab, and 72D with Mulch kit
    2019 2038R with Loader

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    All I can say is they look heavy!

    But without a link or any information there is no way to tell just how heavy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRobinson View Post
    No weight listed - wonder why....

    Skid Steer Attachment

    FCC hydraulic connectors.

    These are made for skid steers.

    There are so many grapples out there that have been proven by our members here - why go looking for something else - especially if you can't attach it or lift it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coaltrain View Post
    No weight listed - wonder why....

    Skid Steer Attachment

    FCC hydraulic connectors.

    These are made for skid steers.

    There are so many grapples out there that have been proven by our members here - why go looking for something else - especially if you can't attach it or lift it?
    Here is the web page for tractor attachments:

    https://www.mtlattachments.com/tractor-attachments
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    From Don's link "Approximate weight 550 - 600 pounds". WOW!!

    Compare that to the EA Wicked 55" grapple at 209 pounds.

    More money, but much lighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coaltrain View Post
    No weight listed - wonder why....

    Skid Steer Attachment

    FCC hydraulic connectors.

    These are made for skid steers.

    There are so many grapples out there that have been proven by our members here - why go looking for something else - especially if you can't attach it or lift it?
    The spec info is not all that accurate. you can see in the pics it is made for john Deere loader attachment. They also make it the otherway for skid steer attachment as well.
    I think they have a generic spec they list with the adds.
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    From what I could tell the weight is 550-590lbs.

    The weight ??? was a good point, the X series is to heavy for my 3 series, I saw a notation that it was designed for60hp tractors and up, it weighs in at 900 lbs.
    so that one is off the table for me.

    They have smaller ones as well that are lighter weight.
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    My current John Deere products
    2012 X740 48" Deck with JD Bagger system
    2012 X740 60 Deck with Mulch kit
    2016 X750 54" deck with Mulch kit
    2017 3039R with Cab, and 320 loader
    2019 X758 with 54" deck and mulch kit
    2019 3033R with Cab, and 72D with Mulch kit
    2019 2038R with Loader

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    This one is a 50" wide single Ram weighs in at 370lbs. $890.00 free shipping.

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    Should I watch the weight more and stay with a narrower single ram or go with a wider double ram setup regardless of the weight disadvantage?
    My current John Deere products
    2012 X740 48" Deck with JD Bagger system
    2012 X740 60 Deck with Mulch kit
    2016 X750 54" deck with Mulch kit
    2017 3039R with Cab, and 320 loader
    2019 X758 with 54" deck and mulch kit
    2019 3033R with Cab, and 72D with Mulch kit
    2019 2038R with Loader

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    What are you wanting to use the grapple for? Moving brush piles? Uprooting trees? Holding trees while you're bucking them?

    I'd think first about the use and then decide if the "root style" or "clam shell style" is better than one with the wider bottom bed. Once you decide your style, then I'd shop for weight and quality. There's a lot of grapples out there that were designed for CUTs vs. being designed for a skidsteer. The ones you're looking at seemed to have been first designed for skid steer use and then they welded on JDQA attach points. Hence the weight.

    When I was first looking at grapples, I was looking for the heaviest duty thing I could find. Then I started learning about FEL attachment weights. You and I have roughly the same capacity tractors. Our loaders supposedly can lift approximately 1150 pounds. If you look at the difference between 550 pounds and 209 pounds, that's 341 pounds. If my public school math skills are correct, that's approximately a 30% reduction in lift capacity just due to the weight difference! Not a big deal if you're moving brush piles. But it's a huge deal if you're holding a large log to buck it. Also a huge deal if you're trying to uproot saplings, brush, etc.

    Just my $.02. I'm by no means an expert on any of this stuff.
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    MTL has a huge assortment of models. The single ram 50" model weighs in at 370 pounds. Still offers some lower support to help cradle the brush.
    The one linked above that weighs 209lbs is also much narrower at 55"s and has a single ram, but does not appear to have much of any lower cradle to support the brush or other materials and cost more then double the 50" MTL that is similar in size, though still 160lbs heavier.

    Mostly I will be moving brush piles and some logs or occasionally some rocks or other debris, but mostly brush including some small brush.
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    My current John Deere products
    2012 X740 48" Deck with JD Bagger system
    2012 X740 60 Deck with Mulch kit
    2016 X750 54" deck with Mulch kit
    2017 3039R with Cab, and 320 loader
    2019 X758 with 54" deck and mulch kit
    2019 3033R with Cab, and 72D with Mulch kit
    2019 2038R with Loader

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