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    H120 loader stand nut missing

    Earlier today my SIL found a washer in the area we were working in yesterday. This am I dropped the bucket and ballast, rugged up the deck, mowed, reversed process. While mounting the bucket again I saw an odd movement and found that the end of the automount frame had come off the arm. I had dropped the frame on an area that was a bit uneven and had only gotten one side in and locked, and almost had the other side done when it happened, so now I have the entire thing on the bucket w/hydraulics loaded and only locked into one side.

    Anyway, I did get it back on the stud w/the pin locked into the hole, but I wasn't able to find the nut - and the washer doesn't seem to go anywhere on that stud that I can see. I don't have a nut that will fit, all my local hardware stores as closed, and HD/Lowes doesn't have anything that big.

    So, does anyone know:

    1) Does that washer go on that stud anywhere or should I go other the entire thing with a fine-toothed comb to see what else may be ready to fall off?

    2) What size is that nut? I think it's M13, but not sure.

    3) What kind of issues/damage do I risk with it in its current state?
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    Pictures are everything in threads like this. Can you post a few so we can help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    Pictures are everything in threads like this. Can you post a few so we can help?
    I only took one and didn't think it would be useful, but here it is, and I can walk over and get a few more in no time if needed...

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    Pictures would REALLY help get an answer
    Did you mean H120, not H110?

    From the drawing in JDparts (if this where you lost the nut) key 11 is M16 flange nut. Key 10 are washers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebrafive View Post
    Pictures would REALLY help get an answer
    Did you mean H120, not H110?

    From the drawing in JDparts (if this where you lost the nut) key 11 is M16 flange nut. Key 10 are washers.
    <sigh> Yea, H120 - it's even in my sig, so I should get that right...

    If I read that right there are 2 washers between the shoulder nut and the mount. On the other side there are NO washers that I can see.

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    No worries. I edited the title for a better description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
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    If that were my machine, I would be checking every bolt on the FEL and torquing the bolts to the specs in the manual..........Start with your loader frame mounts and go from there.........

    Anything can happen, but either they forgot to tighten that nut or its worked loose. That nut on my tractor has a paint mark on it or a permanent marker, but someone marked it confirming it was torqued.

    Since it is a loader part, I would also step up and get the needed hardware from John Deere so the size is right and so the hardware grade is right. Also you want the washer thickness to be correct.

    As far as issues and consequences, I wouldn't take the loader off the tractor again until the stand is properly secured. Perhaps if you take the loader on and off frequently it could have worked the nut loose, I only remove my FEL once or maybe twice a year as I don't mow with a MMM, so I only remove the FEL to mount the front quick hitch..........But I would want to know everything is tight as it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post
    If that were my machine, I would be checking every bolt on the FEL and torquing the bolts to the specs in the manual..........Start with your loader frame mounts and go from there.........

    Anything can happen, but either they forgot to tighten that nut or its worked loose. That nut on my tractor has a paint mark on it or a permanent marker, but someone marked it confirming it was torqued.

    Since it is a loader part, I would also step up and get the needed hardware from John Deere so the size is right and so the hardware grade is right. Also you want the washer thickness to be correct.
    Yea, I'll do the torque check after I get this fixed. As for washers, I don't see any on the other side. Am I correct in thinking based on that drawing there should be two under the nut? Because that just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post

    As far as issues and consequences, I wouldn't take the loader off the tractor again until the stand is properly secured. Perhaps if you take the loader on and off frequently it could have worked the nut loose, I only remove my FEL once or maybe twice a year as I don't mow with a MMM, so I only remove the FEL to mount the front quick hitch..........But I would want to know everything is tight as it should be.
    (reply to edit)

    Yea, at this point I'm not trying anything until I can get it secured. I swap it on an off a lot. I drop it and the ballast whenever I do the grass since I have to get into some tight places. So, maybe a dozen time a year including maintenance, winter stuff (sometimes you just have to use the loader for snow. What a pita to have to drop the entire snowblower setup to do that...)
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