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    My Gravel Plow Shoe project

    I got the loader for my 4520, and also got a plow. As the years go on, the idea of snow removal from a cab tractor has more appeal. The problem is I have a gravel driveway. I made some gravel shoes for my small plow on my JD 318, and as soon as we get some snow they might get tested. I've got both shows and wheels for the blower on my JD 318, and as soon as we get some snow they might get tested.

    But now I need to make some shoes for the plow on the 4520. I think a true "Shoe" that scrapes the gravel would not work, so I want to try a wheel in place of the shoe. Here are some pictures of this project, still in development.

    As soon as we get some snow, they might get tested.

    Oh, and when I say "I made", I drew some really bad pictures, cut some cardboard, and went to someone who has scrap steel and can weld. I don't have a welder for these projects.

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    So the previous shots show how it all looks, the pieces, one shoe mounted, and a "floors eye view". Here's how it looks when the blade is angled at 30 degrees, from the top and the front.

    Operating with these on will be tricky. You can't back up without lifting the plow. When you are ready to go forward again, you have to lower the plow to within a few inches, then quickly go to float. The biggest shock on the "shoes" will be at this point in the process.

    My hope is that once I get the clearance right (typically about 2 to 3" off the gravel) I can just drive down the driveway and plow.

    I made the shoes so they can use either a 9" or 12" wheel. I have 9" wheels (filled, not air) that have a steel rim and are rated at 400#s each. I think that will be too close to the limit. The 12" wheels I have are rated at 750#s, but they have a plastic hub and plastic and cold often cause problems. As soon as we get some snow, they might get tested.

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    I've got two side project related to all this. I have to take the ballest box and fill it with concrete, and I want to put a hitch on the back and two pipes for shovels and the like. So there will be "yet another ballast box" thread (but if there are pictures, perhaps I can be forgiven).

    I'm also making dollies to hold this stuff (the ballast box, forks, blow, and bucket). So these pix are a sneak preview of things to come if I ever get time...

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    My Gravel Plow Shoe project

    The wheels look great Pete! I do wonder about the durability of the wheels myself. Maybe a heavier duty aluminum wheel with a urethane tire like something used on a high end tool box or industrial sized caster wheel?


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    When I get the other wheel done, I'll take it out for a test drive on the gravel and see how it holds up. I would expect the maximum wear to come from gravel with no snow on it. I'll also try the 9" wheel and see how it holds up. Sometimes you just gotta try stuff.

    The gentleman I had make the wheels forgot to weld one bead on the unpainted one, and I don't have a welder so I'll have to get that touched up, then I can try it out.

    Was limited to Northern Hydraulics for wheel choices, a 12" rear wheel for a mower might also be a good choice (but probably more $$s).

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    My Gravel Plow Shoe project

    These guys have a great selection of heavy duty wheels if the ones you have don't work out.

    http://www.castercity.com/caster-wheels.htm


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    Pete, those look great-really well thought out and constructed...but (there is always a but isn't' there?) I think there needs to be some gussets welded on, there is a lot of leverage placed on the rear part that holds the wheel. I realize the concern is limiting turning or "castoring" but I foresee this bending here. Here is what I am thinking, drawn very crudely in MS Paint:
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    Also, not being able to backdrag snow from against objects will really limit the usefulness I think.
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    thanks for the link, Jason, that's in my "dirt toys" bookmark folder. We'll see how the wheels do. I need to get a scale under one and verify the weight too.

    The gentleman that did the work has retired from his machine shop business, and was going out of town for a bit in a few days. So I thought I'd get what I could and give it a shot. The 3/8" steel plate is welded on both sides. If the typical load per wheel is 350#, should be OK. I need to figure out what a 400cx weighs... time to log in to the Deere parts site.

    I agree that some gusset plates would be good, overkill is better than surprises. I'll give it a dry run on dry gravel 1st and see what else there is to do. Now that I've had one on the plow, I can draw out a sketch of what the plate should look like.

    This is very much a "go forward only" device. But if this can get my 900' of driveway clear, I can either go back to the traditional round shoes for the areas close in to the house or use the 318 and it's plow. The 318 is more maneuverable, better for close in. So if this cuts my "out in the cold" time down from 1 hour to 15 minutes, what a win.

    tnx for the feedback, now if you Northers would just share your snow with the rest of us....

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    Quote Originally Posted by eepete View Post
    now if you Northers would just share your snow with the rest of us....

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    You can have all mine Pete! We're suppose to get another foot starting around noon today into tomorrow morning.

    Nice project! I'm patiently waiting to see how it works.
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    I'm assuming the wheels are to keep the cutting edge from digging into or plowing stone/gravle into a pile???

    If so, I've had good luck cutting a grove in a lenght of schd 80 pipe and slipping it over the cutting edge.

    If that wasnt what the wheels were for, then carry on....:beer:

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