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    Which tooth bar style works the best?

    I did some searching on this topic and, while there was a lot of back and forth, this question didn't really seem to be addressed directly. There's basically two major classes of tooth bars: the snaggle-tooth traditional bars like the Heavy Hitch bar and the saw-toothed newer bars like the BXPanded Piranha.

    In heavy clay soil containing many medium rocks (fist sized to cantaloupe sized), which style of toothbar will dig best if you're trying to do something like re-grade a hill or dig a trench a few inches deep but as wide as the bucket?

    In heavy clay soil containing many medium rocks (fist sized to cantaloupe sized), which style of toothbar will dig best if you're trying to do something like get underneath underbrush and rip it out of the ground?



    In case you can't tell it's toothbar-buying-time. I'd been settled on the Piranha but then I saw the Tractor Time with Tim that showed the HH bar and now I can't make up my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by williaty View Post
    I did some searching on this topic and, while there was a lot of back and forth, this question didn't really seem to be addressed directly. There's basically two major classes of tooth bars: the snaggle-tooth traditional bars like the Heavy Hitch bar and the saw-toothed newer bars like the BXPanded Piranha.

    In heavy clay soil containing many medium rocks (fist sized to cantaloupe sized), which style of toothbar will dig best if you're trying to do something like re-grade a hill or dig a trench a few inches deep but as wide as the bucket?

    In heavy clay soil containing many medium rocks (fist sized to cantaloupe sized), which style of toothbar will dig best if you're trying to do something like get underneath underbrush and rip it out of the ground?



    In case you can't tell it's toothbar-buying-time. I'd been settled on the Piranha but then I saw the Tractor Time with Tim that showed the HH bar and now I can't make up my mind.
    well- i have a tooth bar like tim has, only mine does not have forked teeth- only straight teeth for mine. as far as digging mine opened up a whole new world for me. but on the other hand i could see where the piranha bar could be helpful for other duties also-only u can make ur mind up, to which one u want or need-ok. good luck
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    Both styles have their own pro's and con's. The con's are not really faults, they are more like "the other style does this better".

    Both styles are a noticeable improvement over a bare bucket edge.

    I think it will be hard to get a fair comparison because there are likely not that many the have both. They finally decide which one to buy, it improves what they are trying to do and they tractor on happy as a pig in ......

    I chose the Piranha for general versatility. It works great. For a LCUT or full size traditional TLB, I would chose the conventional tooth design.
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    I can see where either would help you in your situation for different reasons. I have the Piranha because it was going to work the best for me and I wanted one I could leave on and still do everything I wanted to do, like back blading. I don't have hard packed clay so I don't know how mine would work in that soil. Just thinking about it makes me think that the traditional with the teeth like Tim has would break up the ground better for a better bite. I have used my Piranha to dig a hole in hard packed ground (not clay) deep enough to bury the tractor in it. Helped a neighbor that had a donkey die on him that needed burying. The Piranha did a great job for this. It cuts into the ground pretty good.
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    I have the type of soil you have, clay and rocks. And I know my style of bar works really well for this soil type. Here are pics of my experience. Oh, and that berm behind the wall was all moved with my 2520, FEL, and tooth bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtgt View Post
    Both styles have their own pro's and con's. The con's are not really faults, they are more like "the other style does this better".

    Both styles are a noticeable improvement over a bare bucket edge.

    I think it will be hard to get a fair comparison because there are likely not that many the have both. They finally decide which one to buy, it improves what they are trying to do and they tractor on happy as a pig in ......
    I posted a second video in Patrick's back yard with the HH toothbar. This time, digging up a driveway.

    I can't compare with the Piranha since I don't have one. I can only provide the video of what I have...for your reference.
    I have used it on two other jobs...with video coming up at some point (only so much time).

    I can say that the tractor feels 10-fold more "powerful" when digging with a toothbar. This is due to the physics of the bar. A much smaller surface area contacting the earth initially. Once it gets 'started', then the tractor is able to continue pushing.

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    I have a tooth bar similar to Big Jim's and Randy's. Back when I bought mine there was no such thing as Piranha or Heavy Hitch. A lot of us at the time had one built by Markham in NC for a very reasonable price.

    This works perfectly for me - I don't know that I would want to replace it with either of those 2 that are available today.

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    A nice feature that our toothbar offers is the ability to change the teeth for different conditions / situations. We use a Pengo 230 shank and the teeth are readily available at most implement dealers. They pin on and can be changed in a matter of minutes. We just like how mean the twin tiger teeth look and dig! You also don't have to drill any holes in your bucket, simply slide it on over the cutter edge and tighten the screws.
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    Am I right that it looks like the HH bar is slightly more reasonable to only put on when I need to dig but leave off the other 90% of the time when I'm just moving stuff around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by williaty View Post
    Am I right that it looks like the HH bar is slightly more reasonable to only put on when I need to dig but leave off the other 90% of the time when I'm just moving stuff around?
    7 set screws with HH, 2 bolts with Piranha. Not really much difference. Easy on either one.
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