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    Grappling with a Grapple decision

    I've decided to get a grapple before spring. I'm not sure which type would be the best for me... the kind like the Frontier ones, I think they are called a rake grapple??
    or the kind that looks like a rock bucket with jaws. I would mainly use it for cleanup of trees and brush.
    The other little concern is that I have a 400cx loader. It is self leveling, so I'm wondering which type would work better with the loader. The people that have 400cx's will know what I'm talking about... When you roll the bucket all the way forward, the loader will bind when you lift up.
    I would probably buy a frontier, but I have SSQA.
    There is a new product called the "wicked grapple from Everything attachments" . It looks pretty interesting. It's pretty cheap and light also. I would like to stay in the 500-600 pound range

    My real questions are:
    1) which style would work best for brusk and trees
    2) Is a 2 jaw design better.
    3) is it good to have the width cover the wheel track like a bucket?
    4) What kind of feedback you you guys have with Everything Attachments

    Of course, any feedback or suggestions would be wellcome
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    Arlen, You probably have already seen these but if not here are couple more to look at as well. Some of them are expensive but they look pretty good. I want to get one some day too.

    Hound Dog Brush / Debris Grapples

    Ranch Rake | Grapple Rake | M&M Engineered Products

    ANBO Grapple and Blade Attachments, Manufacturer of agricultural and construction attachments for all types of loaders, backhoes and tractors

    Grapple Rakes
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    Look at the WR Long offerings as well: Grapples

    My real questions are:
    1) which style would work best for brusk and trees
    2) Is a 2 jaw design better.
    3) is it good to have the width cover the wheel track like a bucket?
    4) What kind of feedback you you guys have with Everything Attachments

    1) That can be debated to the cows come home...
    2) A single thumb is fine for just about anything-two just adds weight and cost IMHO.
    3) I am in the camp that says you do not need one to cover your tracks, 48" is great-but since you have decent lift capacity a 60" would be a good fit.
    4) Nothing personal, but from what I read it's 99% positive. A few threads on TBN got totally blown out of proportion that might suggest otherwise, but I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arlen View Post
    I've decided to get a grapple before spring. I'm not sure which type would be the best for me... the kind like the Frontier ones, I think they are called a rake grapple??
    or the kind that looks like a rock bucket with jaws. I would mainly use it for cleanup of trees and brush.
    The other little concern is that I have a 400cx loader. It is self leveling, so I'm wondering which type would work better with the loader. The people that have 400cx's will know what I'm talking about... When you roll the bucket all the way forward, the loader will bind when you lift up.
    I would probably buy a frontier, but I have SSQA.
    There is a new product called the "wicked grapple from Everything attachments" . It looks pretty interesting. It's pretty cheap and light also. I would like to stay in the 500-600 pound range

    My real questions are:
    1) which style would work best for brusk and trees
    2) Is a 2 jaw design better.
    3) is it good to have the width cover the wheel track like a bucket?
    4) What kind of feedback you you guys have with Everything Attachments

    Of course, any feedback or suggestions would be wellcome
    1) I think both work good for trees and brush. Rake type is better for digging roots
    2) Maybe for odd shaped items (broken concrete slabs) or if you have a wide grapple, for a narrow grapple one is fine.
    3) Not neccessary. Narrow will fit in tight spots, (up until the front tires will not) require less force to dig with.
    4) EA will treat you right. They are contemplating selling "DIY" attachments. A kit precut, drilled as required. Just weld and paint. Said it will be at a considerable savings. Plus a chance to custumise if you think you have a better idea.
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    Grappling with a Grapple decision

    Check out the Frontier AV20 Series root grapples. I have one for my 300CX loader and love it. JD has a bunch of grapples. They have one that is basically your loader bucket with some clamps on the top and a rock grapple. For me, the rock grapple was too expensive and I didn't want the bucket grapple because I wanted loose dirt to fall out the bottom when I grabbed debris. The AV20 grapples were the sweet spot between the two. I think mine was around 2k and has one clamp on top. For 400 loaders you can probably step up to two independent clamps. They look awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElWood View Post
    Check out the Frontier AV20 Series root grapples.
    I do like the Frontiers, Like I said in my post, I would probably buy one, but I have the skid steer mounts on my 400cx. I have considered modifying the mount to make one work on my loader, but there seems to be lots of other options with similar geometry to the Frontier.
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    Well, I've spent most of the weekend reseaching grapples. Thanks for the links robpm . I think I'm leaning to an Anbo 5 foot G-RS. It's a little heavy at 680 pounds, but I think it needs to be pretty heavy or the 4720 will tear it up.
    Anbo also has a general purpose grapple UT-X (61 inch) that I'm considering that is 530 pounds.
    It has the flatter bottom. I'm still struggling with which style would be better for my uses (and loader).

    The Ranch Rake is also nice. There is a dealer about 100 miles away. I'm going to get a quote from them.
    4720 66hp Open Station, Power Beyond, 3rd, 4th and 5th Rear SCV, iMatch, 400cx with SSQA, 3rd Loader Function, MX6, BoDozer Grapple
    JD 320D Skid Loader
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    X748SE 24hp, 647 Tiller, 54" front blade, 47 Snow Blower, 62C deck, JD disk

    JD 997 Zero Turn

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    Grappling with a Grapple decision

    Check out the BoDozer Grapple too. www.borgford.com

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    I finished the same research and decision process that you are going through just three weeks ago.

    I also have a JD 4720 with the 400CX as well. I narrowed it down to the Anbo GR-S or the BoDozer Grapple from Borgford Design. Borgford was the Bo of Anbo before it split and went big corporation. Spent time talking with both companies and they both make a good grapple. Both are still made in the same town. Both designs are similar and not at all like the Wicked and that style. Borgford's web site say the grapple is A514 steel but needs updating. He says he is now using a steel from Sweden which is even better. Stuff called Weldox.

    WELDOX - Weldox

    I was pretty impressed with both grapples but think the weldox is better for the grapple purpose than the AR400 of the Anbo grapple. I like the design of the Bodozer just a bit better as well.
    I went with the BoDozer and should have it in a little over a week hopefully. Weight should be just a little less than the Anbo but he will scale it for me before he brings it over.
    I don't know how much of a hurry you are in but I will let you know how I like it when it arrives. On top of that he uses two paints. Both John Deere paints. Black and green. Guess which color mine will be.
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    I like the BoDozer Grapple from Borgford Design. I like that they will paint it green too. ANBO has more selections instead of just one. I am guessing that this selection is good for the 400CX FEL and a 4720. I like the lighter weights with the more selections for the smaller and less HP CUT's.
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