What Can A SubSoiler Do For Me?
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 32
Like Tree73Likes

Thread: What Can A SubSoiler Do For Me?

  1. Top | #1
    Adamski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Last Online
    06-15-2016 @ 07:05 AM
    Location
    Spring Lake, Michigan
    Posts
    489
    Thanks
    38
    Thanked 99 Times in 61 Posts

    Cool What Can A SubSoiler Do For Me?

    Guys,

    I'm unfamiliar with the subsoiler attachment but I suspect it might be something that I cannot live without. I understand these come in various models like a "middle buster" and a model that doesn't penetrate as deeply as a middle buster. Are these used mainly for loosening the soil or can they also be used to plow a shallow ditch for sprinkler lines? Any information on their usage is appreciated.
    Larry

    "Good advice often goes unrecognized until it's too late."

    1026R tractor, H120 loader, 60D mid-mount mower, JDiMatch, RB2060L rear blade with hydraulic angling, JD ballast box, 40" hydraulic core aerator, 38" dethatcher, home-made duo screen and several JD hats.

  2. Remove Advertisements
    GreenTractorTalk.com
    Advertisements
     

  3. Top | #2
    56FordGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Online
    11-13-2019 @ 07:51 PM
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    10,043
    Thanks
    482
    Thanked 1,662 Times in 1,091 Posts
    Subsoilers are great!

    The average subsoiler cuts a deep trench about 2" wide. Most can go down 18-24". That works well as a preliminary step for breaking up the ground for planting. The subsoiler will not turn over a great amount of dirt, it just cuts a narrow path really deep to allow the plants' root systems to spread out. You would still need to follow up with a plow or tiller to get a seed bed.

    Lots of folks use them to install all type of pipe, wire, tubing, etc. I believe KennyD has posted photos in the past where he set up a roll of wire to automatically feed into the trench cut by the subsoiler.

    A middle buster/ potato plow is very similar to the subsoiler, but the digging foot is much wider and roughly triangle shaped. It will cut a trench about 12" wide, but not as deep as a narrower point in one pass. It will turn over some dirt, but isn't really suitable for preparing a planting spot all by itself. I used mine to put in some 12" deep drainage ditches and it worked wonderfully.
    -Blake

    Your mileage may vary.

    JD 6410
    Some other stuff

    YouTube- Life in Wyoming

  4. Top | #3
    636mullet's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Last Online
    05-14-2019 @ 08:05 AM
    Location
    Council Bluffs, IA
    Posts
    1,626
    Thanks
    127
    Thanked 188 Times in 170 Posts
    Here is the theory I am under. Farmer also have the same issue and that's why many use "no-till" techniques.

    Rototillers make the soil in the space that the tines reach looser, but tend to compact the soil just beneath that layer. Depending on the tiller and the person operating it, that compacted layer can be anywhere from 4-8 inches beneath the surface. That tends to keep plant roots shallow, instead of encouraging them to grow deep to reach moisture and food.


    If you have a sub-soiler then you can break up the compacted area below the tilled soil and counteract the tiller compaction. Being able to trench in sprinkler lines and electrical lines is just an added bonus.


    -636

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to 636mullet For This Useful Post:

    lindsey97 (08-13-2017)

  6. Remove Advertisements
    GreenTractorTalk.com
    Advertisements
     

  7. Top | #4
    Brian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Last Online
    06-05-2014 @ 03:22 PM
    Location
    Bay City, Michigan
    Posts
    3,571
    Thanks
    50
    Thanked 333 Times in 213 Posts
    My 2 cents. Subsoilers, like most other implements, need really dry conditions to work well. They can actually work against you if you use them in wet conditions.

    I agree that you can get "plow pan" with a tiller if thats all you use. That is one reason I plow everything in the fall as it helps to loosen the soil for the spring.

    I use my subsoiler in areas that I drive over with my car or side by side and then want to plant the next spring. I do not use it on anything that was plowed as its not needed or would it work well.

    If you have heavy soil, you need a lot of tractor to pull a middle buster at any depth.



    grnspot110, FormulaB and BigJim55 like this.
    Brian

  8. Top | #5

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Online
    11-03-2013 @ 06:44 PM
    Location
    Shelbyville, KY
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts

    Subsoiler uses

    Subsoilers are also used to help with drainage. If you have an area where water stands due to compacted soil making several passes with a subsoiler loosens up the dirt down deep and allows the water to drain.

    Some subsoiler brands come with an optional attachment for laying wire or flexible pipe like the 1" black plastic water line.

    If you Goggle subsoilers on YouTube there are a couple videos of them in use including examples laying pipe.

  9. Top | #6

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Online
    06-02-2016 @ 02:53 PM
    Location
    Iowa
    Posts
    6
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Make sure you know where your gas lines, phone lines and anything else that might be buried.
    grnspot110 and Dingeryote like this.

  10. Top | #7
    HydroHarold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Online
    06-29-2019 @ 12:07 AM
    Location
    Mid Hudson Valley NY
    Posts
    3,554
    Thanks
    321
    Thanked 332 Times in 253 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by McFarmer View Post
    Make sure you know where your gas lines, phone lines and anything else that might be buried.
    Right! That stuff's far more fun to break with a backhoe anyway!
    2013(12) 1026r TLB 54 QH front blade, 54D Auto Connect deck, ballast box, carryall

    '04 GX335, 48C, Johnny Bucket Jr., PowerFlow W/7bu. bagger, 42 snow blower, 48 Plow, JD front dethatcher, 10 Cart, Little-Brown Henway, Stihl 026P/20", Stihl 241/16", Stihl BG 85 blower, Stihl KombiMotor 110 w/string trimmer/brush cutter/edger/pole saw/hedge trimmer, Snapper 21" WB, Snapper 8/24 snow blower

    "...and visions of green CUT sugarplums dance in his head..."

    NRA Life Member

  11. Top | #8

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Online
    11-03-2013 @ 06:44 PM
    Location
    Shelbyville, KY
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts
    In most communities your utility companies will come out and mark the underground locations for free. That makes it a whole lot easier to rip them up........

  12. Top | #9
    Adamski's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Last Online
    06-15-2016 @ 07:05 AM
    Location
    Spring Lake, Michigan
    Posts
    489
    Thanks
    38
    Thanked 99 Times in 61 Posts

    Cool

    Guys,

    I bought a subsoiler from Tractor Supply Co and set it up on my Imatch. The 3PH does not raise high enough to lift the subsoiler off the ground. In fact, it does not raise high enough to nestle the subsoiler pins down into position on the Imatch. So it will be going back to Tractor Supply. It seems that the problem is the 1026R sets lower to the ground than the CUTS due to the smaller rear wheels. I just wanted to point this issue out in case anyone else with a 1026/1023/1025 was thinking about picking up a subsoiler.

    I will take some measurements off Tractor Supply's middle buster and compare that implement to the subsoiler. I may be able to use a middle buster but I'm not sure right now.
    BigJim55 likes this.
    Larry

    "Good advice often goes unrecognized until it's too late."

    1026R tractor, H120 loader, 60D mid-mount mower, JDiMatch, RB2060L rear blade with hydraulic angling, JD ballast box, 40" hydraulic core aerator, 38" dethatcher, home-made duo screen and several JD hats.

  13. Top | #10
    56FordGuy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Online
    11-13-2019 @ 07:51 PM
    Location
    Wyoming
    Posts
    10,043
    Thanks
    482
    Thanked 1,662 Times in 1,091 Posts
    I ran into the opposite issue. I bought a middle buster first, and it wouldn't go deep enough. The TSC middle buster is a few inches shorter than the subsoiler. They also carry a SCUT specific subsoiler/ middle buster combo that you might want to look into as well.
    grnspot110 and BigJim55 like this.
    -Blake

    Your mileage may vary.

    JD 6410
    Some other stuff

    YouTube- Life in Wyoming

  14. Remove Advertisements
    GreenTractorTalk.com
    Advertisements
     

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Subsoiler
    By rodwaller in forum Implements & Attachments
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 03-18-2013, 11:00 PM
  2. is the subsoiler the tool for sprinklers
    By rgd in forum Home & Workshop Projects
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 09-27-2012, 04:01 PM
  3. Making this subsoiler Imatch Compatable?
    By Brian in forum Implements & Attachments
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 01-24-2011, 05:25 PM
  4. Moding my subsoiler............ Maybe...........
    By Brian in forum Implements & Attachments
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 11-29-2010, 10:49 AM
  5. Subsoiler, They don't make them like this anymore
    By sweettractors in forum Implements & Attachments
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 09-14-2010, 01:08 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •