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    non-JD backhoes

    Has anyone bought/used a Woods or Bradco backhoe with subframe on a JD 4x20 series? I am curious to know how easy it is to mount/dismount these systems. I am familiar with the JD rockshaft assist subframe and have used it with a JD 375 backhoe. I thought it was okay so long as you were on level ground and the backhoe was standing at the correct angle. I'm interested in a third party backhoe as I would like to use it with another brand of tractor and not be limited to JD subframes. In addition, the JD backhoe is frankly a lot more expensive for what is probably a Woods re-branded with a different mounting system.
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    backhoe curiousity

    I have been looking at a Woods WM-6600 backhoe unit for the back of my 3005 tractor. I will be digging basic barn footings, occasional pet burial, ditching a couple feet deep. I won't be yanking out huge oak stumps or putting in huge septic systems. It looked like this would be a nice option. I could drive down to the lower 48 and pick it up while visiting family. To get a JD model 7 or equivalent would cost me $10k up here. I looked at the Woods and Liberty units so far.

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    Fuel Hoser,

    The 3-pt hitch backhoes may void your warranty. I know they are not recommended on the 2x20 series tractors.
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    I second what Andy says, and I would go one step further. I personally would find it too "risky" to put a non-JD hoe on a SCUT/CUT, even if it had a sub-frame. If you cracked your transmission housing, what do you suppose your dealer would say? If you had a JD tractor, sub frame and hoe, all sold and setup by him, I think you would have an easier time with support.
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    Hey... Umm.. The OP mentioned BH with a subframe, not a 3PH model. Although you guys do bring up an excellent point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by arlen View Post
    I personally would find it too "risky" to put a non-JD hoe on a SCUT/CUT, even if it had a sub-frame.
    I was trying to answer the first post, but I guess my answer got dilluted.
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    Interesting point Arlen. Wonder if a manufacturer like Woods would stand behind not only their product, but any possible damage your tractor incurs from their use.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    Interesting point Arlen. Wonder if a manufacturer like Woods would stand behind not only their product, but any possible damage your tractor incurs from their use.


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    Model 7 plates

    My neighbor has a model 7 backhoe on his 790. We looked at his frame mounting plates and they are dirt simple and reach all the way up to where his FEL mounts go. We were looking at making another set (using his as templates) and hooking up the woods backhoe directly to the subframe mount system. The only thing hard mounted to the 3 pt system would be the top mount right up behind the seat. My warranty will be up in a few months on the 3005 and the older 790 is way past warranty considerations. I do like the idea of hard mounting using the plates instead of just relying on the 3 pt arms. It makes so much more sense to spread torque/weight as evenly over as much of the frame as possible.
    You guys are making a good point about Woods not backing any damage to the machine. I'd imagine their legal department is very aware and puts a disclaimer in their product warranty. I'd love to see that fine print before I ever buy.

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    I can't imagine Woods or anyone else who makes a back hoe, including Deere that would cover damage to your tractor from use of a back hoe. They will all hand you the same line, if you damaged your tractor while using a back hoe, then you abused your machine by mis-using the back hoe.

    Like anything, you need to use common sense and not horse the equipment to hard. It helps to match the attachments size and capabilities equally or a little less than to that of the tractor. A back hoe that is too large for the tractor is begging for trouble. I'm going to attach a Case back hoe to my 3 point on my 3320.
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