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    1025R GRAPPLE: Artillian vs. Everything Attachments

    Hi all,


    Looking for some testimonials from owners of 1025R with either the Artillian or Everything Attachments grapples


    Have heard through other forum that EA is coming out with a new lightweight JDQA grapple coming in around 150 lbs, compared to 250-280 for Artillian with all components accounted for including the Artillian frame

    Of course with these small tractors, every pound counts toward lift capacity

    Specifically with Artillian, I'm curious if anyone is running the single grapple on the 1025 - does it seem to secure awkward items enough (ie limbs/trees)?? It is not as wide as everything attachments

    Also with artillian, any testimonies about how easy it is to mount and dismount from the frame?

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    PS I see some application with using this to scoop up piles of seaweed (rather than digging/gouging out my lawn by the water)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jermedic View Post
    Hi all,


    Looking for some testimonials from owners of 1025R with either the Artillian or Everything Attachments grapples


    Have heard through other forum that EA is coming out with a new lightweight JDQA grapple coming in around 150 lbs, compared to 250-280 for Artillian with all components accounted for including the Artillian frame

    Of course with these small tractors, every pound counts toward lift capacity

    Specifically with Artillian, I'm curious if anyone is running the single grapple on the 1025 - does it seem to secure awkward items enough (ie limbs/trees)?? It is not as wide as everything attachments

    Also with artillian, any testimonies about how easy it is to mount and dismount from the frame?

    Thanks,
    jermedic

    PS I see some application with using this to scoop up piles of seaweed (rather than digging/gouging out my lawn by the water)
    First the Artillian easily secures items whether in single grapple or multiple grapple format. The gripping leverage is very good. Mounting and discounting the grapple sections is very easy.

    I like the long lower tine format of the Artillian grapple compared to the short rake on the EA model shown here.
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    That's a personal preference.

    Both companies make good products, I prefer the Artillian product for its quality, versatility, and support (both for the purchase, and for this site)
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    I have an Artillian grapple and run it on my 2210 which is a JD SCUT that is 2 generations older than the 1 series. In short I love it and think it is the perfect size for a SCUT. I have moved countless logs and rocks with it. I have also used it to root up roots/ground cover.

    I have one grapple with 2 root rakes for my set up. To me that gives a fairly good balance between weight and performance considerations. Having a single grapple is no big deal and works out for me. I will say if you do not grab a log pretty close to the center of its balance point you might encounter some tippiness issues. That is simply because I have a SCUT and it isn't that heavy. It's not a particularly dangerous situation because the log will just simply dig into the ground and stop your tipping. You simply have to re-adjust your load. You will discover when you start moving freshly cut logs you need to grab more towards the stump end of the log than the growing end because the stump end weighs more.

    I researched both EA and Artillian and while I like the EA grapple, it simply seemed to be too big for my tractor. Also it may appear EA is cheaper but once you start factoring in hydraulics etc it was not enough of a difference to me.

    As far as removing the grapple, if you are leaving it on the frame then unhooks like every other JD attachment to a loader. If you are removing the individual pieces off the frame it is fairly simple. The root rake portions are fairly light and no big deal to take off. The grapple portion has some heft to it but is not overly burdensome. I have removed mine several times to install my hoe bucket. Takes only a couple minutes if you are organized.

    I have more issues with the quick disconnects than anything. One of them simply doesn't like to work very well so sometimes I spend a few extra minutes playing with it. My FEL doesn't have a great place to mount the hydraulics since the grapple was not designed for this particular FEL. It is designed for a 1 series FEL so I doubt it will cause any issues.

    If I have a 1 to 3 series and need a grapple, I would get an artillian again in a heartbeat. If I had a tractor that was bigger than a 3 series I would look at another vendor for a bigger grapple to take advantage of the bigger tractor.
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    I don't have a grapple, might be one in my future. If I was to get one it would be from EA because of how they make them and it's a dedicated grapple. Artillian makes a good grapple to work with their system but it's not what I'm looking for. I like the longer tines on the bottom and the top part to be the full length of the bottom part or close to it and all one piece. I just like the way EA makes theirs. Lifting logs can be done with either make but a longer top part is needed for me so I can also pick up piles of looser stuff without it falling off on the ends and not need 2 top parts. Just my thoughts.
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    Mine grabs lots of debris and branches and I only have one grapple but I understand your concern. I am using mine to slow reduce the debris pile left behind when I had 2 acres cleared for my house and yard. My only issue is I do not have a big enough tractor for that kind of work so I have to be careful when I am grabbing debris. Despite the clamping power of the grapple, I am only going to be able to pick up about 700 pounds.

    The EA I looked when I was shopping for mine did have what appeared to be longer tines on the bottom. That is good for getting underbrush and small roots when clearing raw land. The Artillian does a great job at it as well. It probably comes down to owner preference. I recommend a grapple as a must have attachment if you have any kind of woods or unimproved land. It's also fairly decent at picking up construction debris as well. It can get at stumps but that really isn't the best use for it. My hoe bucket works much better and I am sure stump grinder even better but I can't afford one of those.
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    Anyone know the price of the Everything attachments grapple yet?
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    I'm going to be in the market for a grapple (as soon as the tractor arrives) so I'm dialed into this thread. I glanced at EA's web page this morning and didn't see anything about the upcoming lightweight grapple for a JD SCUT. The lightest one I saw was 300 pounds, which burns up most of the 500+ pounds of lifting capacity of a 1-series. They also started north of $1200.

    I'm still leaning toward the Artilian. but I'd like to see some photo of the hydraulic connections and line routing on a 1025R with the JD third SCV. Anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martincom View Post

    I'm still leaning toward the Artilian. but I'd like to see some photo of the hydraulic connections and line routing on a 1025R with the JD third SCV. Anyone?
    I believe most are using the diverter kit to operate their grapples, that way your hand can stay on the joystick to open and close it. To use the 3rd SCV you'll have to run long 1/4" hoses from the loader all the way to the rear couplers, they'll be about 12'-14" long. The JD 3rd SCV kit is also not compatible wit the Power Beyond kit that a lot of guys have to feed their backhoes.
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    I have the Artillian single grapple with two rake beds. I've only used to move large logs and not any brush, and it did a great job at that. Mounting the components is very simple, I and pretty sure there are some videos showing the process on their YouTube site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
    I believe most are using the diverter kit to operate their grapples, that way your hand can stay on the joystick to open and close it. To use the 3rd SCV you'll have to run long 1/4" hoses from the loader all the way to the rear couplers, they'll be about 12'-14" long. The JD 3rd SCV kit is also not compatible wit the Power Beyond kit that a lot of guys have to feed their backhoes.
    Thanks, Ken. My 1025R is not scheduled for delivery until next month, so I don't have anything to look at except what I can find online. I had checked Artilian's web page and they do have photos of their diverter kit, but I didn't know what to look for. I was hoping the 1025's third SCV circuit would also have front couplers.....I'm gathering from your reply, it doesn't.

    FYI, I have checked your web site and viewed your YouTube video detailing the installation of your hooks. Very well done. If the hook business peeders out, you can always go to Hollywood.
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