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    JD 40-u...Yey oy nay

    Got a line on a JD 40-u.

    If your reading this you likely know way more than me.

    I don't even know if this is posted in the Proper section yet....

    Seen a bundle of tarp in a guys back yard and my kid went and talked to the owner.

    40-u is all the info I got so far.
    Tractor data shows a 2 cyl.

    Is this the same basic "why a 2 cly" engine as all the others??

    I'm totally green to these models but got hooked when someone posted the video last week.

    Why Only Two Cylinders
    Indestruckable ( to a point) easy to work on , simple , Brainless , No loader but has mower and ?

    Whats one worth?

    New they were 1500$ in 52 ish


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    They are easy to work on. The Dubuque two cylinder tractors are much easier than the Waterloo tractors. At least to me they are. I never did get the hang of the larger two cylinders. I don't recall if JD made a loader for the 40-420-430 tractors or not. There were a few short line companies that did. There has to be some laying around in yards some place. Having worked on both, I would say that the 40 is easier than working on the 8N that you just bought.
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    There was a JD loader made for the 40 series, don't recall the model number, but good luck finding one!

    Mine is a 40 "Standard", narrower than the Utility, nice little tractor to have, I gave around $3000 for it 5-6 years ago, partially restored. Found a more modern 5' Ford front blade I was able to adapt to it for snow pushing.
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    My first John Deere was a ‘52 Model M. The 40 was its replacement. They’re a good solid tractor and yes they are easy to work on. I used it for 12 years and the only thing I had to do to it was replace the clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing. I was dreading doing it but it was actually really easy to split, install the parts and slide back together.

    Since you say you’re unfamiliar with 2 cylinders, these machines are vertical 2 cylinders, not horizontal like the Model B, A, and G and the later number models of those.

    I think the main difference between the M and the 40 is the 40 had the standard 3 point hitch. The M did not. It had dedicated implements that slid on a horizontal lift bar and the third point sat on a saddle underneath the bell housing.
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    Pics

    This is rediculous...45 min to load one pic.

    I did one earlier that was mere seconds it seems.

    Got a bunch I'll text to rtgt , but I think He's on Vacation someplace.

    Took several shots of tractor and inspected the basics. Looks GTG.

    Weird little thing. Offset to the left for some reason , seat looks like a park bench with ZERO springs, rear axle has some gear reduction boxes on the ends and puts rear wheels way back. Pto ,,wow it sticks way out back and appears offset too. The whole thing looks cockeyed. Mismatched front rubber and some steering slop were the worst things I could find. Long & low...should be perfect on the mountain.
    Oil was clear & clean....very strange distributer cap. Although its a vertical 2 cyl...It should still sound like the horizontal.
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    one more try & I give up

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    Interesting. To start with, the distributor cap is normal. It’s the same as my Model M. For some reason the rear axle housings are mounted turned 90 degrees to the rear. The pan should be on the bottom not the back. Maybe they did that to lower the rear of the tractor. Starter looks normal, oil filter and gauge look normal and the carb and intake look normal. It has the adjustable front axle. Looks like it’s all there to me, just needs some TLC. And yes, it still sounds like a 2 cylinder.

    (Edit) After looking at some photos of a 40U on Google, the rear axle housings are mounted the way your photo shows. Apparently that’s part of the “Utility” difference.

    As for the steering slop, my M had 100 lb wheel weights bolted to the front wheels. It had about 1/2 turn of play. There is an adjustment on top of the steering gear to take some of it out, but I had to have the pin that follows the worm rebuilt and hardened to fix mine. The wheel weights were off from then on.
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    Maybe its the Orchard version.
    The exhaust has been turned and runs slightly downhill towards back.

    Maybe the axle boxes run as you say ...underneath for the high crop..??

    They have owned it since early 70's.

    Few leaks but they helped preserve it. gas smells good , ran last year.
    Antifreze looked good.
    Rear tires are loaded and probly leaking by the look of wheels.

    Owner is some gal...a bit butch I hear..I don't care . Shes selling the couple properties next to my kids place sometime in the future. The time to act is now before some prospective buyer spots it.
    I like it....Having a bit of trouble finding much info on these.

    I think it was a short lived series and they went to 4 cyl.



    So dose this fire 1 ,2 and then rotate 540* , then 1 ,2 ....like the horizontal version..?


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    I believe it’s just a standard 4 cycle engine. I don’t remember it having the pause after firing twice like my “B” does. I sold it in 2007.

    After researching more, the main difference between the “40U” and the “40S” was the rear axle housings rotated to the rear, shorter front end and down exhaust. The “S” had the rear housings down, a higher front axle and exhausted up and was taller. So yeah, standard row crop vs orchard.

    It should be a pretty good tractor. It just looks odd to me to have the rear axle pan drain plugs 4-5 inches up from the bottom.
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