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    Mounting Hooks and/or Shackle Mounts on a Heavy Duty Bucket

    The following was sent so me by Bob, AKA netsurf1 who was having trouble posting pictures-so he asked me to post this for him.

    Disclaimer: KBOGH does not authorized or approve of this method, but it is an option if you have the technical ability to do it this way and fully understand the risk's involved. We still recommended welding hooks on if you have a heavy duty bucket that has the double-walled top section.

    All text and pictures from this point forward is Bob's from emails he sent me:

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    I received my 2012 JD 3320 a couple of days ago.
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    I fabricated stainless steel spacers 30 mm long. These spacers keep the two metal plates from compressing toward each other when grab hook hardware is tightened.
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    I purchased some of your grab hooks and shackle eyes. I have a 300CX loader with the heavy duty bucket (double thickness at top of bucket). I marked and drilled 1/2 inch diameter holes through both pieces of metal at the top of the bucket. I then increased each hole diameter in the top plate to 11/16 inch.
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    I installed the spacers. The spacer rests on the bottom plate. The top of the spacer is flush or even with the top of the top plate.
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    I then installed your grab hooks, shackle eyes, and backing plates. I used silicone RTV between all mating surfaces to prevent water from getting between the metal plates. I used 1/2 inch X 13 UNC 316 Stainless Bolts (3 inches long), belleville washers, flat washers, and nuts. Care must be taken to keep your drill perpendicular to the metal plates while drilling or use a magnetic base drill to insure you are keeping the drill straight.
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    I would recommend your products to anyone looking for high quality grab hooks. Your service and speed of delivery were excellent, also. If my installation does not prove strong enough in the future, I can weld the grab hooks on, which is a nice feature of your grab hooks. I believe they would perform great welded or bolted to the loader bucket.
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    Ken, thanks for offering quality products and service as well as your assistance in posting this information.
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    Very nice install, they are a great upgrade, I love mine, as it makes the bucket able to do so much more work. Except for maybe the cost, I don't know why JD does not include them with their buckets!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 59ApacheDriver View Post
    Except for maybe the cost, I don't know why JD does not include them with their buckets!
    I can answer that with one word:

    Liability


    No OEM that I know of offers hooks, not even the big boys like Caterpillar or Case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
    I can answer that with one word:

    Liability


    No OEM that I know of offers hooks, not even the big boys like Caterpillar or Case.
    Kenny is correct about liability. You can how ever get OSHA approved lifting hooks on the newer backhoes and excavators, but as in any lifting device from hooks to rigging, they use a 3x safty factor meaning if you are lifting 100lbs, the rigging and lifting devices have to be rated for 300lbs. If you are using man lifts and baskets it is a 5x safty factor.
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    My chain is rated for 4000+ lbs, and my FEL will only lift a little over 1000, so I'm good!
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    For anyone who may be installing hooks on JD HD buckets, as Kenny states in his post above, bushings are required to bridge the space between the top upper and lower edges.

    When I installed Kenny's hooks on my 61" HD bucket I fabricated bushings @ 1 5/32" long from 3/8" I.D. black pipe. I cut them to size using a Rigid pipe cutter and drilled the top bucket hole @ 5/8" diameter which allows the bushings to drop right in. The 3/8" pipe I.D. is actually a close 1/2" so I ran a tapered reamer through each bushing to size them for the bolts. I sprayed everything with Boeshield T9 to prevent rust. Dropped the bushings in from the top and used 1/2" Grade 8 bolts, washers and prevailing torque nuts to complete the installation.
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    I guess I am confused on how these bushings are being used. For my installation I just mounted the hooks on top and the eyes underneath so that they were sandwiching the top of the bucket. It is far stronger than what my bucket can lift. When installing I opted to put them in line with the arms of the loader. It has worked well for most everything. I do wish I had one in the center for lifting a single point item though as I have a tendency to lift one side of the tractor otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KD7CAO View Post
    I guess I am confused on how these bushings are being used. For my installation I just mounted the hooks on top and the eyes underneath so that they were sandwiching the top of the bucket. It is far stronger than what my bucket can lift. When installing I opted to put them in line with the arms of the loader. It has worked well for most everything. I do wish I had one in the center for lifting a single point item though as I have a tendency to lift one side of the tractor otherwise.
    Please review the pictures in the first post, and this text from the FAQ page on the website:

    Q: What if the top of my bucket is double-walled?
    A #1: Some heavy duty buckets have a double wall construction on the top, and bolting hooks to them could damage the bucket by compressing the wall’s together, and you would not be able to properly torque the bolts. If you have this type of bucket construction, then these hooks may not be the best option and you should consider having the hooks welded on.

    In summery, KBOGH/BoltOnHooks LLC does not recommend or endorse the use of the bolt on products for these heavy duty, double walled style buckets.
    A #2: One customer, Bob from IN recently did an install on his 3320/300cx/HD Bucket with custom made spacers. You can read the details here on the GreenTractorTalk forum. Bob knew the potential issues and assumed all responsibly in this application. We cannot offer this solution due to the difference's in the buckets.
    Your 1 series does not have this "double walled" bucket, so no bushings are required. Oh, and we have plenty of everything in stock
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    KennyD I had reviewed the pics but it still was not making sense... so on the double walled buckets I assume their is an air gap between the plates and thus the need for the bushings? Most that I have seen the two plates are tight to each other and welded making one much thicker plate.
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