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    stump removal trouble

    I have popped a few stumps with my 750 tractor with a #7 backhoe...I even popped one decent size stump that had been a blow down, so I only had to dig up half...but it was on a side hill so it had its own issues. but the last stump I am still working on is holding fast I am 3 feet down all around and I have maybe one big horizontal root clump left...but this thing isn't even wigglin a little...does anyone think I might have a tap root? it was cut a LONG time ago and was a big tree!! so I don't really know what type...I might be an oak or a maple....only because there are two big trees left that are maples...



    I have even resorted to chopping away under the root ends with a pick ax, because I cant reach under there with the hoe.... I have even cut several roots stringers with the chainsaw..of course I have ruined that blade....because there are rocks inside the dam roots... this soil is all bankrun under the topsoil...

    so if anyone has any tips other than dynamite, and paying $600 for an excavator to come in/..... id love to hear them...


    bob

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    Well, if times were a little different I'd recommend what my grandfather would do, a little diesel fuel and some fertilizer.

    Maybe hook a truck to it and give it a good yank? I had one that just wouldn't let go and the truck and chain did the trick.
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    yeah I was thinking that's my next attempt, unless I heard a great solution...but since it doesn't budge with the backhoe, I am thinking I might not be able to pull it out with the truck.

    what kind of trees have tap roots that go straight down?

    I have dug soo much dirt out from around this baby, that I have had to use the loader the remove it away from the hole so I can access another spot with the backhoe!!!


    I think by next year I am going to move up in tractors... I am thinking if I could get something around 30+ HP, id be better off.....

    I had a line on a 4300 but it was $6K more...although it was way newer. FEL, #8 hoe, and 72 " finnish mower!!

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    No suggestions but I do know stumps that size are a real challenge. Then you need to get it out of the deep hole which is also fun or just bury it right there.
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    Yea, with a tree that big you may not be down deep enough to even get to the big roots yet. Even once you get it lose your machine may not even be big enough to move it. I think if I was at your stage I would cut the stump off as close to the ground as possible, fill the holes back in and rent a stump grinder to get it below ground.

    An excavator would have it out in about 1 minute.
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    yeah that stump is going...hook or crook... I don't want rotting wood underground on the lawn...if it was the woods, I wouldn't care.... I haven't hit any roots below three feet so far....there is one root still going out to virgin ground...it might be as big as 8 or 10 " in dia...I haven't cleared out around and under it enough by hand to use the chainsaw yet...but since its still pretty stubborn, I thought...maybe it has a tap root!!

    but in the end ill call my brother in law, who has a big excavator....but it is a pain for him, because he is busy now and he has to load it and haul it 30 miles and unload it, pop the stump...(which should be easy and fast) get it down to the woods to discard it and then load that suclker up and hual her back to his site and unload it......much more of a project that just saying the words.."can you just pop this stump for me please"


    as a toolmaker, I hate it when engineers come in and tell me they have a 5 minute job for me....which is usually nothing but.. ha ha


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    Have you tried a controlled burn around the root-ball?
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    Just a few of the trees with a tap root.... Oak, Live Oak, Burr Oak, Cedar Elm, Pines, Pecan, Hickory.

    Have you tried tying a chain around the stump and hitched to your tow bar....get a little slack and then jerking on the stump? Once you get some movement,you may be able to see where you need to concentrate your digging . Although maple doesnt usually have a tap root..they can develop a huge lateral root down to a water source.
    I rented a komatsu excavator for the weekend a couple of weeks ago. It cost about 250 including trailer. But since I rented it saturday morn and returned it early monday morn, I was only charged for a day

    After using the komatsu....I wanted to throw rocks at my backhoe. What a neat piece of equipment!
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    I don't think I can access the tow bar directly with the backhoe on the machine.... and it seems like a big job removing the backhoe!!

    bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvice View Post
    I don't think I can access the tow bar directly with the backhoe on the machine.... and it seems like a big job removing the backhoe!!

    bob
    The drawbar is probably not accessible with the BH on, if it is there to begin with. You should take the BH off some time when you have the time, it should be fairly easy to remove and reinstall.
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