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    Weed control options

    Looking for some other options for weed control in my lawn. NW OH, I have a little over 2 acres to keep looking pretty. Wet, Heavy clay, so the grass grows pretty well normally. My lawn is in pretty good shape, and I'm pretty good about mowing frequently, and mowing at 3 inches, and regularly fertilize. I have issues with dandelions primarily due to a neighbor that doesn't care about his, but there are problem places with white and yellow clover as well. What are you using for weed control?

    In the past I've used Trimec and other 2,4, D type products, and they've performed well. I'd like to find something that's potentially a little safer and better for the environment if possible. My kids play in the yard, and due to our water table we have a pretty shallow well. Maybe 2 4D causes cancer, maybe it doesn't, but if there's something better I want to make the switch. Suggestions? Thanks.

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    Thanks for starting this thread. I'm in Nebraska, and have 3 acres. Lots and lots of dandelions this spring, and wife wants them gone.

    I've been mowing at 2.5" so far. Curious to see what suggestions come on this thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaubsNU1 View Post
    Thanks for starting this thread. I'm in Nebraska, and have 3 acres. Lots and lots of dandelions this spring, and wife wants them gone.

    I've been mowing at 2.5" so far. Curious to see what suggestions come on this thread...

    Will be following.
    If you want the spring dandelions gone, hit them hard in the fall. Shoot for a broadleaf application in September/October before you get a killing frost, you may have a few escape the next spring, but you will not have that burst of dandelions first thing in the spring. The bonus is that in the fall, more of the desirable plants are going dormant or dying (ornamental broadleaf plants) so off target problems are minimized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 56Nine View Post
    If you want the spring dandelions gone, hit them hard in the fall. Shoot for a broadleaf application in September/October before you get a killing frost, you may have a few escape the next spring, but you will not have that burst of dandelions first thing in the spring. The bonus is that in the fall, more of the desirable plants are going dormant or dying (ornamental broadleaf plants) so off target problems are minimized.

    Good advice for treating in the Fall, but it sounds like he has problems right now.

    (I will address this answer for a homeowner rather than an applicator)

    Weeds need to be sprayed when they are actively growing. The Ortho Dial sprayer and a hose work great and pre mix at the correct rate so calibration is not an issue.
    Ortho Dial N Spray Hose End Sprayer - Ortho

    For broadleaf weed control a 3 way herbicide will do OK. There are much better products but Ortho Weed B Gone isn't bad and is available everywhere. I see this new formulation also has a little quincloric in it which will kill crabgrass that has just sprouted.
    Weed Killer Plus Crabgrass Control-Weed B Gon-Ortho

    Next: Set your mowers up, 3.5" is good, 4" is better. It won't need near the care of water if you just raise your mower.

    For fertilizer, look for good fertilizer now cheap. Expensive does not mean good. What you want is fertilizer that releases over a long period of time. Not only is this good, it minimizes leaching and volatilization. Middle of the road fertilizer will have two ways to slow release. SCU, sulphur coated urea which is crap. Much better is PCSCU, poly coated sulphur coated urea which is much better. High end stuff I use is 100% RxN which is stablized nitrogen. There are no coatings and it releases over 8 weeks. Really good stuff.

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    My mower(s) are always set much higher than 2.5",,
    easily, I cut at 3.5" or even 4" depending on the machine,,

    Look at the front right, or left rear gauge wheel,, those wheels are 9" high, and sitting in fresh cut grass



    The right rear is being held up in the air because the earth is not flat in that area,,,

    If I mow any lower, the grass variety I grow looses to the weeds.

    Mow high, the grass can win.

    That Woods mower is set at the maximum height the spacers can be adjusted to,,,
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    As a selective herbicide, I like Triplet SF but I think it's got 2,4-D in it, now that I think of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firewood Bandit View Post
    For broadleaf weed control a 3 way herbicide will do OK. There are much better products but Ortho Weed B Gone isn't bad and is available everywhere.

    For fertilizer, look for good fertilizer now cheap. Expensive does not mean good. What you want is fertilizer that releases over a long period of time. Not only is this good, it minimizes leaching and volatilization. Middle of the road fertilizer will have two ways to slow release. SCU, sulphur coated urea which is crap. Much better is PCSCU, poly coated sulphur coated urea which is much better. High end stuff I use is 100% RxN which is stablized nitrogen. There are no coatings and it releases over 8 weeks. Really good stuff.
    I'm a big fan of both Weed B Gone and urea also.
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    Thanks for the explanation FirewoodBandit.

    For me, I'll just raise up the mower deck. If I killed the weeds, I would have a lot of bare dirt.

    At some point I need to start working on "the lawn". Right now I am just focusing on drainage and cleaning up the place.

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