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    Lawn overseeding plan for this fall?

    My lawn is in need of overseeding and rejuvenation. I've been working hard on repairs and changes to the landscape, driveway, etc. So this fall I want to hit the rest of the lawn hard.


    • Mid August:
      • Spray with Trimec and Tenacity to kill off any weeds. Need to do this 1 month before seeding.
      • Soil test to determine if it needs lime and how much N to use
      • Broadcast lime if needed

    • Mid September:
      • Dethatch and collect with lawn sweeper
      • Broadcast granular starter fertilizer and let it get rained in once
      • Mow grass really short and collect with sweeper
      • Broadcast seed
      • Broadcast topdressing (what should I use?)
      • Roller to get the seed down (is this needed?)
      • Straw over bare spots
      • Water where I can daily with timers, but can't do the full yard daily due to size and well
      • Broadcast granular starter fertilizer again in mid-late October

    • Late April:
      • Seed/straw/water any bare spots, but hopefully none
      • Boom spray or granular broadcast dimension pre-emergent
      • Boom spray or granular broadcast fertilizer (0.75lb/1000sqft)
      • Boom spray Talstar for the backyard and wand spray the house perimeter
      • Enjoy lawn



    Is any of my plan stupid? Anything I'm forgetting? Is running over the broadcast seed with a roller worthwhile? I do not have a roller so I'd have to borrow/rent one. I have a 3 point sprayer, a friend's tow broadcast spreader, to dethatcher, three point rake, and a friend's lawn sweeper for equipment. What should I use for top dress?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedals2Paddles View Post
    My lawn is in need of overseeding and rejuvenation. I've been working hard on repairs and changes to the landscape, driveway, etc. So this fall I want to hit the rest of the lawn hard.


    • Mid August:
      • Spray with Trimec and Tenacity to kill off any weeds. Need to do this 1 month before seeding.
      • Soil test to determine if it needs lime and how much N to use
      • Broadcast lime if needed

    • Mid September:
      • Dethatch and collect with lawn sweeper
      • Broadcast granular starter fertilizer and let it get rained in once
      • Mow grass really short and collect with sweeper
      • Broadcast seed
      • Broadcast topdressing (what should I use?)
      • Roller to get the seed down (is this needed?)
      • Straw over bare spots
      • Water where I can daily with timers, but can't do the full yard daily due to size and well
      • Broadcast granular starter fertilizer again in mid-late October

    • Late April:
      • Seed/straw/water any bare spots, but hopefully none
      • Boom spray or granular broadcast dimension pre-emergent
      • Boom spray or granular broadcast fertilizer (0.75lb/1000sqft)
      • Boom spray Talstar for the backyard and wand spray the house perimeter
      • Enjoy lawn



    Is any of my plan stupid? Anything I'm forgetting? Is running over the broadcast seed with a roller worthwhile? I do not have a roller so I'd have to borrow/rent one. I have a 3 point sprayer, a friend's tow broadcast spreader, to dethatcher, three point rake, and a friend's lawn sweeper for equipment. What should I use for top dress?
    I would move everything up a month.Mow grass short before putting down fert and sweeping.If your going to use Pre-emergent don't waste the time and seed.Pre-emergent creates a barrier for weed seeds so they won't grow,so grass seed will not grow either.Depending how heavy you put it down is how long it will work. Lesco Stonewall pre-emergent that I use can last up to 4 months depending on the rate applied.So a .75 pounds per 1,000 will get me to mid August if I put it down in mid April.
    If you're able to plug aerate in Aug. and put seed and starter fert down. I wouldn't worry to much top dressing unless it's a bare spot.
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    I'd suggest that you get your soil test NOW and apply lime/fertilizer as needed. I'd also look at (and treat if necessary) insects. Then soil test again and re-apply lime/fertilizer as needed come August. All of that allows you to get the soil chemistry right in plenty of time for fall seeding.

    My back lawn got infested with grubs 3 summers ago. They ate everything and following summer I had 90% dirt with a few patches of grass. That fall moss took over and last spring my back yard was a nice thick bed of moss with zero grass. I spent the summer killing moss, getting the soil chemistry right and fighting weeds as they popped up. Last fall I top-dressed with compost and seeded and manged to get some growth before winter set in. This spring I'm back to 99% nice green grass. I have a handful of small bald spots that I' working this summer. Next summer it should look spectacular!
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    I won't be putting down any pre-em this year. That won't be until spring. Trimec is post-em and won't affect seeding as long as you give it a 3-4 week buffer. Good point on soil testing now. I guess I could need a lot of lime to get in and do its job over longer time. I'll get that done next week I guess. I think I can still accidentally buy Merit here. I had moles over the winter that did some damage.
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    You noted in your plan that Late April you were going to seed bare spots then put down pre-em.The seed won't grow with pre -em down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJR345 View Post
    You noted in your plan that Late April you were going to seed bare spots then put down pre-em.The seed won't grow with pre -em down.
    Oh that. Ya if I have bare spots to re-seed, the pre-em will wait a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedals2Paddles View Post
    My lawn is in need of overseeding and rejuvenation. I've been working hard on repairs and changes to the landscape, driveway, etc. So this fall I want to hit the rest of the lawn hard.


    • Mid August:
      • Spray with Trimec and Tenacity to kill off any weeds. Need to do this 1 month before seeding.
      • Soil test to determine if it needs lime and how much N to use
      • Broadcast lime if needed

    • Mid September:
      • Dethatch and collect with lawn sweeper
      • Broadcast granular starter fertilizer and let it get rained in once
      • Mow grass really short and collect with sweeper
      • Broadcast seed
      • Broadcast topdressing (what should I use?)
      • Roller to get the seed down (is this needed?)
      • Straw over bare spots
      • Water where I can daily with timers, but can't do the full yard daily due to size and well
      • Broadcast granular starter fertilizer again in mid-late October

    • Late April:
      • Seed/straw/water any bare spots, but hopefully none
      • Boom spray or granular broadcast dimension pre-emergent
      • Boom spray or granular broadcast fertilizer (0.75lb/1000sqft)
      • Boom spray Talstar for the backyard and wand spray the house perimeter
      • Enjoy lawn



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    In September, after you mow your grass really short, but before you spread the seed, aerate the lawn with a plug aerator.
    And no, don't use a roller to set the seed.
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    +1 on the plug aerator in the fall prior to seeding. Depending on the soil you can either rake up the plugs if you have lousy clay like us and then seed and spread good topsoil.... or if your soil is decent, spread the seed then break up the plugs by dragging something light to help cover the seed.
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    I generally use the core aerator to loosen things up in thin turf areas in the fall. Then overseed and use a 3PH mounted dethatcher to break up the plugs and rake the seed in. I then apply some starter fertilizer as well. Seed germination has been pretty good.

    Here's a link to the 3PH mounted dethatcher: https://www.cmpattachments.com/3-point
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    I love that 3 point dethatcher. Mine is a typical cheap-o tow behind I think 48" thing that fit well behind my old 425. I wish I had something bigger for the 1026r, but at the same time I still only have an acre of lawn.
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